I think that people should be entitled to vote on the Lisbon Treatybut only if they can demonstrate that they've read and understood it, and are able to contextualise it within a broad political, economic and legal picture.
I fail to see the problem with this scheme.
(I fail to see the problem with this scheme.
Enzyme is powered by sunlight,
Thu 5 Nov 2009, 21:26,
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If that was the criteria for voting then fair enoughbut to say repeatedly there would be a vote and saying they wouldn't sign anything until the public were happy to do so and then go off and do it anyway is a fucking liberty.
At least thats the way I see it. I might have missed a trick some where.
(At least thats the way I see it. I might have missed a trick some where.
Lazlo Woodbine Panowie!,
Thu 5 Nov 2009, 21:29,
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The irony of you using the word liberty is that sentenceis not lost on me ;)
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Redsushi! Whoop! Whoop! Yes, that one!,
Thu 5 Nov 2009, 21:31,
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Quite.I was going to change it but decided against it.
Almost like posting what could be seen as an anti-european post and using the words 'faux pas' in a reply.
:D
(Almost like posting what could be seen as an anti-european post and using the words 'faux pas' in a reply.
:D
Lazlo Woodbine Panowie!,
Thu 5 Nov 2009, 21:34,
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Well technically speaking the thing they promised the vote on and the thing they independently ratified aren't actually the same.But I see where you're coming from.
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zoldergoose,
Thu 5 Nov 2009, 21:31,
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They promised a vote on the constitution.Fortunately, the French rejected that, which saved the UK population the indignity of making a national arse of itself.
The Treaty is different, and there's no reason at all to have a referendum on a treaty. There never has been before, so there's no precedent. And it's a precedent that no government would want to set - quite understandably and rightly, in my view.
(The Treaty is different, and there's no reason at all to have a referendum on a treaty. There never has been before, so there's no precedent. And it's a precedent that no government would want to set - quite understandably and rightly, in my view.
Enzyme is powered by sunlight,
Thu 5 Nov 2009, 21:33,
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I was thinking more the 4% ;) Redsushi! Whoop! Whoop! Yes, that one!,
Thu 5 Nov 2009, 21:34,
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Maybe the question should be in a foreign language.But written in caps, with big spaces between the words.
Because that's how you make a foreigner understand you.
(Because that's how you make a foreigner understand you.
Enzyme is powered by sunlight,
Thu 5 Nov 2009, 21:35,
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