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# top vectorage, sir!
(I helped save b3ta! theoriginalsteve <this space intentionally left blank>, Mon 18 Jan 2010, 10:27, archived)
# Is it a vector?
I'm confused about vectors - I confess to not fully understanding them, but I didn't think you got gradients in vectors.

Edit Uh-oh. Can o'worms!
(I helped save b3ta! barryheadwound Mul-ti-pass? Multipass!, Mon 18 Jan 2010, 10:30, archived)
# I was under the impression that you COULD get gradients in vectors
vectors being defined by the fact that they are not composed of x number of pixels by y number of pixels, but by a series of points (the vertices) separated only by relative distance, and that the shapes involved are made by rules connecting the vertices, making the image theoretically indefinitely scalable without the pixellation found when zooming way the fuck in to a bitmap, for example.

Given this framework, I'd imgaine it's relatively simple to define the colour for a shape as fading from 1 colour to another in a defined direction.
(I helped save b3ta! Mockingbird Practitioner of SCIENCE, Mon 18 Jan 2010, 10:35, archived)
# gradients in a vector image as created in illustrator:


Click for bigger (99 kb)

(I helped save b3ta! theoriginalsteve <this space intentionally left blank>, Mon 18 Jan 2010, 10:41, archived)
# Kewl!
*insert generic rant about Star Wars prequels*
(I helped save b3ta! barryheadwound Mul-ti-pass? Multipass!, Mon 18 Jan 2010, 10:49, archived)
# they didn't happen
(I helped save b3ta! prodigy69 broke b3ta and made everyone leave, Mon 18 Jan 2010, 10:57, archived)
# what didn't happen?
(I helped save b3ta! barryheadwound Mul-ti-pass? Multipass!, Mon 18 Jan 2010, 10:58, archived)
# I don't know.
Let's forget about it and watch ALL THREE indiana jones films of which there are ONLY THREE with the possible addition of River Phoenix in "Young Indiana Jones".
(I helped save b3ta! Mockingbird Practitioner of SCIENCE, Mon 18 Jan 2010, 11:00, archived)
# and on a related subject, how many matrix and terminator films are there?
(I helped save b3ta! theoriginalsteve <this space intentionally left blank>, Mon 18 Jan 2010, 11:04, archived)
# 3 matrix, 4 terminator as far as I know/can see
They both contained fucking awful slightly less good films (see: editing in T4, music in matrix 2+3)
(I helped save b3ta! Mockingbird Practitioner of SCIENCE, Mon 18 Jan 2010, 11:09, archived)
# hmmm... well, I tend to ignore terminators 3 and 4 (I'll admit I sort of enjoyed them, but they just don't "fit it" somehow)
matrix 2 and 3 were just shockingly bad
(I helped save b3ta! theoriginalsteve <this space intentionally left blank>, Mon 18 Jan 2010, 11:13, archived)
# Yeah, George Lucas always intended to make them
but never got round to it. Probably for the best - they'd just be crammed full of modern special effects.
(I helped save b3ta! El Cid ...wing attack plan R..., Mon 18 Jan 2010, 13:20, archived)
# I like this.
It is both informative and pretty. Also, were my vague guesses about vectors at all accurate?
(I helped save b3ta! Mockingbird Practitioner of SCIENCE, Mon 18 Jan 2010, 10:50, archived)
# I almost understood your explanation!
I get the bit about vertices etc, but I didn't think about the whole 'rules' thing - I was just thinking they'd need to be individually plotted bands of shade.

Or something.
(I helped save b3ta! barryheadwound Mul-ti-pass? Multipass!, Mon 18 Jan 2010, 10:53, archived)
# I think your guesses were spot on, as it happens! :D
(I helped save b3ta! theoriginalsteve <this space intentionally left blank>, Mon 18 Jan 2010, 10:57, archived)
# Yeah!
/skypunch
(I helped save b3ta! Mockingbird Practitioner of SCIENCE, Mon 18 Jan 2010, 11:01, archived)
# You have a matrix transform for the fill and this imaginary idealised gradient and then you invert the matrix and copy the pixels over.
(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Mon 18 Jan 2010, 10:49, archived)
# what?
I feel you are mocking my lack of actual knowledge. If so, carry on.
(I helped save b3ta! Mockingbird Practitioner of SCIENCE, Mon 18 Jan 2010, 10:51, archived)
# I said words.
I wrote this thing for rendering images from SWF format, and gradients work sort of like those words I said.
(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Mon 18 Jan 2010, 10:54, archived)
# Sssshhh!
You'll upset the proper pedants.

*Oh dear. Moments too late...*
(I helped save b3ta! Sea Tramp the thinking woman's 8 Ace, Mon 18 Jan 2010, 10:35, archived)
# it's ok, I'm not a proper pedant
as I was guessing.
(I helped save b3ta! Mockingbird Practitioner of SCIENCE, Mon 18 Jan 2010, 10:38, archived)
# Heheh.
What I really like is crap pedants. The ones who start off saying "I think you'll find...", and then get it wrong.
(I helped save b3ta! Sea Tramp the thinking woman's 8 Ace, Mon 18 Jan 2010, 10:42, archived)
# I think you'll find its spelt "one's"
(I helped save b3ta! twig Save 6 Music, Mon 18 Jan 2010, 10:50, archived)
# in other news
BNP leader Nick Griffin appears to be in the coffee shop on my site.
(I helped save b3ta! Mockingbird Practitioner of SCIENCE, Mon 18 Jan 2010, 10:50, archived)
# Give the prick the Chef's Special.
On the house.
(I helped save b3ta! Sea Tramp the thinking woman's 8 Ace, Mon 18 Jan 2010, 10:56, archived)
# I would,
but I don't work there. I just buy coffee at it.

Also I think he saw me staring, but he might not have because I was to one side - which eye works on him?
(I helped save b3ta! Mockingbird Practitioner of SCIENCE, Mon 18 Jan 2010, 10:59, archived)
# The third.
Just twat the cunt.
(I helped save b3ta! Sea Tramp the thinking woman's 8 Ace, Mon 18 Jan 2010, 11:06, archived)
# You're right, it's not a true vector.
The gradient is raster.
(I helped save b3ta! mofaha ┐( ˘_˘)┌ ʅ(́◡◝)ʃ, Mon 18 Jan 2010, 10:36, archived)
# aaahhh... I see!
(I helped save b3ta! theoriginalsteve <this space intentionally left blank>, Mon 18 Jan 2010, 10:39, archived)
# I guess a true vector would have no pixels
and would be invisible. You could express it as numbers, but they would also have to be invisible, or it would be a raster.
(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Mon 18 Jan 2010, 10:52, archived)
# vectors use the pen tool to build shapes
raster doesnt :D photoshop vectors arent true vectors but then as soon as you save a picture into a jpg it becomes a raster and so loosing its vectorness anyway! :D
(I helped save b3ta! Rev. Jesse. broke his ankle, Mon 18 Jan 2010, 10:57, archived)
# You can save the paths in illustrator format
(and then import them into Blender and make them into polygons, if so inclined.) Seems like they're real vectors to me. They're awkward vectors, I admit.
(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Mon 18 Jan 2010, 11:03, archived)
# i'm still trying out
illustrator - i've never heard of doing that before - but then there is a lot i dont know about vectors :D
(I helped save b3ta! Rev. Jesse. broke his ankle, Mon 18 Jan 2010, 11:06, archived)
# Dunno if it works.
I tried it out with ps (postscript) format from inkscape once.* That produced curves in blender on the ground plane where the curves in the image were. Curves on their own aren't all that much use but with a bit of work (like extruding them or something**) they can be made into visible shapes.

*or it might have been svg I tried.
**have to convert to mesh first.
(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Mon 18 Jan 2010, 11:09, archived)