
remember remember the 9th of November
( , Wed 11 Sep 2013, 12:09, Reply)

September 11, 2001 - 2,977 people were killed - i will not forget that day
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I wish they would tell the truth about that.
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( , Wed 11 Sep 2013, 12:22, Reply)

If something is put forward to me in a snappy video presentation I find it hard not to go along with.
( , Wed 11 Sep 2013, 12:30, Reply)

Have you ever wanted to be rich? Yes? Did you know all you have to do to get rich is give me £100? It's that easy! And then you show other people a snappy video presentation on how to be rich and get £100 from each of them! (then give me £50 per person) Isn't that so easy?
( , Wed 11 Sep 2013, 12:56, Reply)

Someone would fill a few 747's with all these conspiracy fuckwits and fly them into some buildings full of 9/11 'truthers'.
The average IQ of the planet would jump up a notch or two, for a start, and we'd have the added benefit of a load of space freed up on Youtube's servers.
( , Wed 11 Sep 2013, 12:52, Reply)

who have lied bear faced to the IT industry about encryption standards that they intentionally made backdoors in to weaken IT security for their own benefit, whilst lying to the entire world.
But of course that's not relevant here right?
( , Wed 11 Sep 2013, 12:57, Reply)

Isn't that one of those logical fallacy things I read about on Wikipedia once? Something along the lines of "this happened!" so therefore "this!".
( , Wed 11 Sep 2013, 13:02, Reply)

Anyone who think otherwise is deluded. Of course National Security Agencies are going to lie about their capabilities, why would they tell everyone exactly what they can and can't intercept?
It's also irrelevant. There's a big difference between a security agency doing what it's designed to do, and flying planes full of their citizens into a building full of more of their citizens.
( , Wed 11 Sep 2013, 13:06, Reply)

I work in IT security. I know full well the way they work, entirely meant to delude as opposed to protect peoples information.
So you think they because they opened a back door only they can get to it? Get a clue, they weaken it for everyone.
It's not irrelevant it's lying to the masses for the sake of political / military gain. So it's very relevant.
( , Wed 11 Sep 2013, 13:26, Reply)

"I know full well the way they work, entirely meant to delude as opposed to protect peoples information"
It's not their job to 'protect people's information', it's to intercept it.
For a *Secret Security Agency*, lying to the masses is in the fuckin' job description.
Kind of the entire raison d'etre of spying, no?
( , Thu 12 Sep 2013, 9:29, Reply)

That's kinda their job isn't it?
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( , Wed 11 Sep 2013, 14:22, Reply)

weakening protocols so that it's also easier for the "enemy" to obtain otherwise secure information from. It's dumb.
( , Wed 11 Sep 2013, 13:37, Reply)

www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rnc1/brute.html
It's not like Crytpo AG, unless you are seriously dumb.
( , Wed 11 Sep 2013, 13:25, Reply)

cryptographic number generators but also elliptical curves for their own gain, promoting their weak ones above the cryptographically sound.
Azure has a "cryptographically secure" random number generator, you can't attach additional hardware to azure instances so unless you get your entropy from elsewhere (external, which adds another level of risk) you have to trust them, even though they won't tell you shit all about it,
( , Wed 11 Sep 2013, 13:31, Reply)

"...and knock down 3 buildings with two planes..."
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( , Wed 11 Sep 2013, 16:22, Reply)

rememberbuilding7.org/7-facts-about-building-7/
And that it was many many hours before it actually collapsed (according to Wikipedia)
( , Wed 11 Sep 2013, 16:47, Reply)

am glad we live somewhere where we can at least express misgivings about stuff.
There are elements of this all that look awful, but I'm sure there are perfectly legitimate reasons for, probably money, made by the elite of society.
That's normally the reason for most things
( , Wed 11 Sep 2013, 13:10, Reply)

the intelligence agencies, security services and the other more 'secret' parts of governments, etc are entirely competent.
Somehow, I think the fact that these organisations act in secret, without terribly much oversight, makes them prime candidates for incompetence.
( , Wed 11 Sep 2013, 13:36, Reply)

because governing bodies and watchdogs work so well in keeping companies+govt honest, efficient and transparent over here, eh.
( , Wed 11 Sep 2013, 13:52, Reply)

Maybe the most likely explanation is that actually nobody has a clue what really happened, but the government has to have "some" official story anyway.
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no one remembers Mother Teresa blowing up a tube train the very same day
( , Wed 11 Sep 2013, 15:00, Reply)

he wanted to be in a film directed by Oliver Stone that would turn him into a hero, but no one could think of a good enough plot. So, he asked his uncle - Francis Ford Coppola - and Coppola told him about how Martin Sheen started the Vietnam War.
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Nicolas Cage laughs at us everyday and calls us fools
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