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This is a normal post If only the followers of Islam would admit there is a problem
in that their faith inspires and engenders so much hatred, violence, homophobia, misogyny etc.
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Sat 14 Feb 2015, 18:29, Reply)
This is a normal post It's the creation of outgroups
which causes all those problems.

You know, like saying ALL muslims support terrorism, without any evidence to back that up. That kind of thing.

Football seems to have a problem with hatred, violence, homophobia, misogyny etc too.

If you want more jokes and less political correctness about muslims, then what do you think we should do about the rise in hate crime against them? Ultimately, when people are worried about offending muslims, that's what they are most worried about.
 (I helped save b3ta! monkeon schmonkeon, Sat 14 Feb 2015, 18:42, Reply)
This is a normal post The Pew Research Center
has conducted extensive polls all over the world asking Muslims about their attitudes to apostasy, women's right, homosexuality, rule of law etc etc. The results are presented country by country. It makes for shocking and uncomfortable reading and reveals extremely prevalent views held by Muslims the world over. I urge you to look it up. It is hard data. The whole 'everything is fine, there are just a few nutters with extreme views that just happen to subscribe to this faith' cant is just trite wishful thinking.
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Sat 14 Feb 2015, 19:03, Reply)
This is a normal post The Salafists have been fucking up Islam since the 1800's
Shit has hit rock bottom.
 (smellysamlyingcable Seaman on, Sat 14 Feb 2015, 19:07, Reply)
This is a normal post ^and this is it, on the head
unfortunately it's birthplace is also the most important place on the planet
 (I helped save b3ta! Jahled Three shades of black, Sat 14 Feb 2015, 19:10, Reply)
This is a normal post It's birthplace is Bognor Regis?

(I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Sat 14 Feb 2015, 19:15, Reply)
This is a normal post THis may sound weird.
But part of their grand plan is to destroy Mecca.

Because it ain't pure.

They already smashed a lot of it.
It's a cultural genocide only comparable to the one they would commit if they weren't timid daddy money tabbies.
 (smellysamlyingcable Seaman on, Sat 14 Feb 2015, 19:15, Reply)
This is a normal post I read an interesting article about that.
they have proper smashed up destroyed loads of centuries old stuff.
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Sat 14 Feb 2015, 19:19, Reply)
This is a normal post I've been reading about that, really strange
you would think some of those places would be sacred to the faith, i'm sure they are to the wider Islamic world, which must really suck given this lot are demolishing them
 (I helped save b3ta! Jahled Three shades of black, Sat 14 Feb 2015, 19:20, Reply)
This is a normal post
Salafists are Nihilists.

Absolute nihilists.

Only the absence of humans, including themselves, and everything they have ever created can be truly pure.

Think Khmer Rouges but worse. Much worse.
Because they have a long term grand plan.
And we are all it.
Without our heads.
 (smellysamlyingcable Seaman on, Sat 14 Feb 2015, 19:31, Reply)
This is a normal post Say what you like about national socialism
At least it's an ethos
 (I helped save b3ta! The Ann Coulter Fan Club Babylon is burning at, Sat 14 Feb 2015, 22:36, Reply)
This is a normal post
I think if you surveyed any random section of society, religious or otherwise, you'd be shocked how many racists, homophobes and general fuck heads you turn up.
 (sithemong, Sat 14 Feb 2015, 19:08, Reply)
This is a normal post I've seen that Pew Resaerch Center data.
The thing that most struck me about was it failed to poll what non Muslims in each country thought of the same issues, making it completely useless as a piece of research to see if Islam is the cause of their views.
 (I helped save b3ta! The Awful Puppy Bakery is still bored, Sat 14 Feb 2015, 19:22, Reply)
This is a normal post Er...
given that all the questions directly or indirectly related to Islam, and that most of the surveys were conducted in countries with an overwhelming muslim majority, I'm not sure why they would question non Muslims. It was explicitly and overtly research into views held by Muslims mainly in the muslim world.
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Sat 14 Feb 2015, 19:29, Reply)
This is a normal post If you are using it as an
argument that Islam is somehow different to other religions, then it would be relevant to compare data.

I suspect the Christian attitude to homosexuality wouldn't be particularly liberal, especially in places like Uganda.
 (I helped save b3ta! monkeon schmonkeon, Sat 14 Feb 2015, 20:11, Reply)
This is a normal post Great.
But unless you have a regional baseline to compare it with (a cultural norm), you cannot point to any particular opinion and blame Islamic influence for it.
 (I helped save b3ta! wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Sat 14 Feb 2015, 20:35, Reply)
This is a normal post I imagine I'd be shocked by
most people's attitudes to those subjects - we seem to be an increasingly right wing society and I live in a liberal bubble.

Big difference between having an opinion and acting on it, too.
 (I helped save b3ta! monkeon schmonkeon, Sat 14 Feb 2015, 20:08, Reply)
This is a normal post It is wrong to single out a particular section of society
Human beings are shit, by far the worst species on the planet. We could be the best. You're a part of the problem. Quit being a part of the fucking problem.
 (I helped save b3ta! A Rory Borealis here under duress, Sat 14 Feb 2015, 18:44, Reply)
This is a normal post Yes.
I am part of the problem of islamic extremism. I'm very sorry.
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Sat 14 Feb 2015, 19:06, Reply)
This is a normal post Go cut off the offending body part the Magic Book says.
There's probably a glossary or a handy schematics in the back pages.
 (smellysamlyingcable Seaman on, Sat 14 Feb 2015, 19:10, Reply)
This is a normal post Sarcasm
Solving disagreements since never
 (I helped save b3ta! A Rory Borealis here under duress, Sat 14 Feb 2015, 19:24, Reply)
This is a normal post How is he 'part of the problem?'

(I helped save b3ta! Jahled Three shades of black, Sat 14 Feb 2015, 19:14, Reply)
This is a normal post Because I can see there is a problem, and I have the temerity to point out there is a problem,
and the sense to see that the problem is somewhat more specific than just "humans are cunts", but this is problematic for those who want to pretend that there is no problem.
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Sat 14 Feb 2015, 19:23, Reply)
This is a normal post Oh how blind we are oh master
Please lift this misty veil from our eyes

Your argument is "X is the problem" and if someone disagrees then you think they are saying there is no problem.

I agree there is a problem, and I think you are part of it.
 (I helped save b3ta! A Rory Borealis here under duress, Sat 14 Feb 2015, 19:28, Reply)
This is a normal post
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 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Sat 14 Feb 2015, 19:31, Reply)
This is a normal post
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circular_reasoning
 (I helped save b3ta! A Rory Borealis here under duress, Sat 14 Feb 2015, 19:33, Reply)
This is a normal post Unfortunately that problem seems to be an ultra conservative interpretation of Islam whose clerics command obediance from the Saudi ruling elite and society at large
which is going to make tackling that problem a bit tricky as long as oil prices fuel our economies, and that oil wealth from Saudi Arabia is going overseas spreading the good word of Wahhabism, turning relatively normal people into psychotic nutters
 (I helped save b3ta! Jahled Three shades of black, Sat 14 Feb 2015, 19:34, Reply)
This is a normal post There is very little room for interpretation of Islam, it's central credo is established as literal,
interpretation is vehemently and emphatically discouraged in its source text.
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Sat 14 Feb 2015, 19:42, Reply)
This is a normal post He is pointing out intolerance
Whilst being intolerant
 (I helped save b3ta! A Rory Borealis here under duress, Sat 14 Feb 2015, 19:29, Reply)
This is a normal post So we should tolerate the intolerant?
we should embrace those who reject the very tolerance that permits them to practise their own intolerance? You're nuts.
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Sat 14 Feb 2015, 19:34, Reply)
This is a normal post Yes we should tolerate them
up until the point that they break the law, and then we should lock them up.
 (I helped save b3ta! A Rory Borealis here under duress, Sat 14 Feb 2015, 20:07, Reply)
This is a normal post No I don't think he is
Islam is obviously an awkward subject. If only it was Ukip
 (I helped save b3ta! Jahled Three shades of black, Sat 14 Feb 2015, 19:48, Reply)