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This is a link post How to stop the Tories

A spreadsheet advising tactical voting, hopefully the link will work. Worth a look.
 (I helped save b3ta! Turquoise Hexagon Sun has just dropped acid on, Tue 18 Apr 2017, 22:43, Reply)
This is a normal post Why would anyone need such a thing?
Is it because Corbyn is such an effectual leader that there is no credible opposition, so policy-based voting won't work?
 (I helped save b3ta! Varmint, Tue 18 Apr 2017, 22:54, Reply)
This is a normal post Whatever the reason

It offers the statistically highest chance of reviving the status quo. Regardless of political policies voting in this way would offer the best chance for something different to that which we have now.
 (I helped save b3ta! Turquoise Hexagon Sun has just dropped acid on, Tue 18 Apr 2017, 23:06, Reply)
This is a normal post Good luck mate.
This kind of data based analysis never filters down to the voters that matter. People don't like Corbyn. He has zero charisma and charm. That is why he will fail. But, it does look like a fairly decent psephological analysis of the situation.
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Tue 18 Apr 2017, 23:11, Reply)
This is a normal post One of them is dead mate!

(I helped save b3ta! Varmint, Tue 18 Apr 2017, 23:56, Reply)
This is a normal post Bermondsey & Old Southwark
[EDIT - I see that they have Copeland down as a Labour-held seat. Oh dear.]

I cannot for the life of me see why one would wish for anything but a Conservative government on June 9th, given the choice on offer.
 (I helped save b3ta! Mr Mann I love pigs, best of all the animals, Tue 18 Apr 2017, 23:09, Reply)
This is a normal post That's because you're an abject cunt

(benito vaselini no not that one, Wed 19 Apr 2017, 6:30, Reply)
This is a normal post Ok Benny, which party are you going to support?
I'm assuming lib dem because they're the only ones who will offer you a chance to still be under the safe thumb of Brussels.
 (I helped save b3ta! Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Wed 19 Apr 2017, 8:01, Reply)
This is a normal post Haven't decided yet
I live a rock solid labour seat so it won't make any difference what I vote. Again. I will be sneering at explicit calls for tory government on here though
 (benito vaselini no not that one, Wed 19 Apr 2017, 8:32, Reply)
This is a normal post Rock solid labour seat?
You live in London AICMFP
 (I helped save b3ta! Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Wed 19 Apr 2017, 8:57, Reply)
This is a normal post One of us will be delighted on June 9th
And I'm guessing it won't be you.
 (I helped save b3ta! Mr Mann I love pigs, best of all the animals, Wed 19 Apr 2017, 9:49, Reply)
This is a normal post
I second that and add "massive git"
 (I helped save b3ta! transparenttown Dead to worse..., Wed 19 Apr 2017, 8:10, Reply)
This is a normal post That's why I'm going to vote for them

(I helped save b3ta! evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Wed 19 Apr 2017, 9:48, Reply)
This is a normal post Let's face it, you'd never vote any other way

(benito vaselini no not that one, Wed 19 Apr 2017, 14:40, Reply)
This is a normal post Red/blue it doesn't matter. Two cheeks of the same arse.
Labour just pretend to care whilst they fuck you in the butt, the tories just don't pretend to care.

A labour council sold off the nice country house that was my sister in laws day centre for apartments, under a labour government. They are as nasty as the tories. I respect the reasons why people vote for them, but frankly I think they are deluded.

Show me a party where the MPs are actually customers of the public services they provide rather than sending their kids to private schools and telling us grammars are discriminatory and taking out private health care. Hypocritical shite fucks one and all.
 (I helped save b3ta! Draconacticus Reject shampoo. Demand real poo!, Tue 18 Apr 2017, 23:23, Reply)
This is a normal post I think if people chief this way
There would be no clear majority, possibly leading to some form of progressive alliance.
 (I helped save b3ta! Turquoise Hexagon Sun has just dropped acid on, Tue 18 Apr 2017, 23:31, Reply)
This is a normal post Who would be your dream coalition?

(I helped save b3ta! Draconacticus Reject shampoo. Demand real poo!, Tue 18 Apr 2017, 23:34, Reply)
This is a normal post That's a difficult question :o/

(I helped save b3ta! Turquoise Hexagon Sun has just dropped acid on, Tue 18 Apr 2017, 23:51, Reply)
This is a normal post Progressive Alliance?
I think you mean bickering and ineffectual coalition. The SNP are utterly incapable of any alliance that doesn't result in the break up of the UK. Labour have turned so far left even the Lib Dems would find them impossible to deal with. The fact is that any si called progressive alliance would demand the Brexit vote to be ignored. If progress means over-ruling a democratic referendum, failure is destined.
 (I helped save b3ta! Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Tue 18 Apr 2017, 23:50, Reply)
This is a normal post Some people want to pretend there's hope.

(I helped save b3ta! FeralCatMan Long ads need comments sections, Wed 19 Apr 2017, 2:24, Reply)
This is a normal post The problem with aliances and coalicions is they absolve those elected of their manifesto promises.
See: Tuition fees.
 (I helped save b3ta! Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Wed 19 Apr 2017, 8:02, Reply)
This is a normal post Part of the problem seems to be that people tend to
vote for the party and not the candidate. If someone is shit at being an MP, they'll usually just get re-elected regardless of the competition.
 (I helped save b3ta! monkeon schmonkeon, Wed 19 Apr 2017, 0:48, Reply)
This is a normal post Whist the record of an m.p is important granted the party is too.
The m.p is standing on the manifesto pledges it's party decides.
 (I helped save b3ta! Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Wed 19 Apr 2017, 7:59, Reply)
This is a normal post They should represent their constituency, though.
If it was a company, you'd complain to management.

George Osborne being a good example of one who obviously doesn't give a shit about his responsibilities.
 (I helped save b3ta! monkeon schmonkeon, Wed 19 Apr 2017, 10:08, Reply)
This is a normal post If there is a difference between what the constituency seems to want and the manifesto promise the m.p made how do you square that?

(I helped save b3ta! Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Wed 19 Apr 2017, 11:14, Reply)
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I don't get this type of reasoning you are just painting yourself into a corner. That was under Tony Blair and Gordon Brown...the whole reason everyone hates Corbyn is because he isn't that.
 (I helped save b3ta! transparenttown Dead to worse..., Wed 19 Apr 2017, 8:14, Reply)
This is a normal post The hate seems to be more about the lack of charisma.
I can see him being great local MP, but he's a bland speaker.
 (I helped save b3ta! monkeon schmonkeon, Wed 19 Apr 2017, 10:14, Reply)
This is a normal post Nope its about his insane delusions of what the world is like
And what he feels needs fixing, both of which don't appear to have changed since 1975. Someone needs to point out to him that the country has things like minimum wages, health and safety, more than a 3 day working week etc.

He's a bad orator too, but it's the "being a fuckwit" I have a problem with.
 (I helped save b3ta! DinivanX Has stinging piss after drinking Pact Coffee, Wed 19 Apr 2017, 11:49, Reply)
This is a normal post You mean the same reasoning that made people bleat on about Thatcher long after she left power?

(I helped save b3ta! Draconacticus Reject shampoo. Demand real poo!, Wed 19 Apr 2017, 10:55, Reply)
This is a normal post Not me but...
Thatcher did untold lasting damage to many communities across the country...where as Blair did untold lasting damage across someone else's country. Not voting Tory ever again because "Thatcher" is just as dim as not voting Labour ever again because of Blair.
 (I helped save b3ta! transparenttown Dead to worse..., Wed 19 Apr 2017, 12:36, Reply)
This is a normal post Every election I read each party's manifesto, and take an objective view on it all.
I won't be voting Labour as Corbyn's close allies are Abbot, Chakrabati and McDonnell.

They think it's fine to limit choice in education for people who can't afford private schools, happy to swap a peerage for a whitewash, and think taxing people who are already paying their fair share of PAYE more is the solution to the current funding shortage.

A party of jealousy and hypocrisy. A pox on them I say.
 (I helped save b3ta! Draconacticus Reject shampoo. Demand real poo!, Wed 19 Apr 2017, 13:35, Reply)
This is a normal post If only she'd had a pop at the transport unions, eh?
They could do with some untold lasting damage.
 (eViLegion Chief Commissioner of the Scottish Lunacy Board, Wed 19 Apr 2017, 14:29, Reply)
This is a normal post Christ....
Am I too old fashioned to say wait until each party declares their manifesto and chose the one you most like?
 (I helped save b3ta! Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Wed 19 Apr 2017, 7:58, Reply)
This is a normal post If only if worked like that.
But you have much chin scratching to do over whether you actually believe they have any intention of delivering it and deciphering all the detail they leave out about how they will achieve it.

It's all just vague promises and bull shit.
 (I helped save b3ta! Draconacticus Reject shampoo. Demand real poo!, Wed 19 Apr 2017, 11:01, Reply)
This is a normal post If it's a manifesto promise it's much harder to break.
See the backtrack on the self employed n.i rise recently.

See also the pasting the lib dems got for breaking the no tuition fees promise.
 (I helped save b3ta! Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Wed 19 Apr 2017, 11:29, Reply)
This is a normal post that spreadsheet is all over the place
organise!
 (theswollenbeef where there's a will there's a wank, Wed 19 Apr 2017, 11:22, Reply)