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This is a normal post Theoretically yes.
If we can get past the hypocrisy 'I love animals and like cheap meat' etc.
(, Tue 12 Dec 2017, 13:09, Reply)
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"We are a nation of animal l-ooh, look, that chicken is only £2.99!!"
(, Tue 12 Dec 2017, 13:13, Reply)
This is a normal post Bit different if they had to kill it themselves.

(, Tue 12 Dec 2017, 13:24, Reply)
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Depends, would it be even cheaper? *readies cleaver*
(, Tue 12 Dec 2017, 13:44, Reply)
This is a normal post You have to catch the little buggers first.

(, Tue 12 Dec 2017, 14:38, Reply)
This is a normal post They dont call him Teh Daggenham chicken chocker for nothing,you know

(, Tue 12 Dec 2017, 16:07, Reply)
This is a normal post Ah the ol you wouldn't eat meat if you had to kill the animal itself.
We managed it perfectly happily in the past.

I give it 2 weeks before meat eaters give up on a veggie diet and google "how to wring a chickens neck".

Beef is different, those buggers are strong.
(, Tue 12 Dec 2017, 13:49, Reply)
This is a normal post Ah, that's ok because people in the past did it.
An amusingly bankrupt argument, often used by religious extremists.
(, Tue 12 Dec 2017, 14:27, Reply)
This is a normal post I've offed, prepared and eaten a few bunnies and chickens.
It's not that bad.

Worst bit is having to push the poos out of their arse from the inside out as you gut them.
(, Tue 12 Dec 2017, 14:36, Reply)
This is a normal post As a rural cat owner
I've seen a lifetimes worth of slowly dying rodents.
The tiny bunnies scream the place down.

I suppose it comes down to individual capacity for empathy v societal pressures.
(, Tue 12 Dec 2017, 14:44, Reply)
This is a normal post As a rural cat owner myself I am lucky one cat is too lazy to hunt and the other eats his kill and doesn't toy with it.
If your cat was to bring an animal in obviously in pain but past saving what would you do?
(, Tue 12 Dec 2017, 15:02, Reply)
This is a normal post Usually I don't have to kill them.
An axe or hammer can be required on occasion.
(, Tue 12 Dec 2017, 15:21, Reply)
This is a normal post I'm not sure it does come down to empathy.
Killing an animal for food doesn't make you some kind of emotionally stunted psychopath. I think some humans are trying to moralise themselves to the point they convinced themselves they are no longer part of the animal kingdom.
(, Tue 12 Dec 2017, 15:27, Reply)
This is a normal post Many peoples who actually hunt for food respected the natural world.
Conversely, modern humans have indeed seen themselves as above the other animals, allowing greater and greater industrialisation of farming.
(, Tue 12 Dec 2017, 15:48, Reply)
This is a normal post I'm reading "A History of Ancient Britain" by Neil Oliver at the moment. It's well worth a read.
The bit where humans transition from the Mesolithic to the neolithic in Europe is fascinating. Some archaeologists think that farming spread east from persia very slowly across the world and headed west, as populations grew hunting become unsustainable and populations had to farm to support the number of mouths to feed and there was a lot of competition over land from the traditional hunters' territories getting pushed back by the bloomin forrins coming over from the continent with their new fangled ways.

The surprising bit is though that diets and health actually worsened in the short term because the farmed diet was a lot less varied.

I think we're seeing the inevitable consequence of population growth that the carbon footprint associated with modern meat farming isn't sustainable.

Eventually we'll conclude too late that there are just too many people on the planet.
(, Tue 12 Dec 2017, 16:40, Reply)
This is a normal post Many people have concluded that already ages ago.
I mean, it's simply obvious. Sure it can be shown with complicated science and mathematical projections, but really you just have to meet a few ordinary people and it should occur to you.
(, Tue 12 Dec 2017, 19:29, Reply)
This is a normal post THis is the sad history of the middle east
conflict between nomadic herdsmen and settled farmers. It really does go back that far.
(, Tue 12 Dec 2017, 19:35, Reply)
This is a normal post Intelligence takes little part in reproduction.
The rest I blame on 'marketing'.
(, Tue 12 Dec 2017, 21:53, Reply)
This is a normal post It's a very western viewpoint that the slaughter of animals for food is something to be squeamish about.
The rest of the world just accepts it as part of life if you're going to eat meat.
(, Tue 12 Dec 2017, 14:36, Reply)
This is a normal post Many millions of Hindu and Buddhist people might disagree.
Mass consumption of large quantities of meat is largely a recent western phenomena.

Consumption of meat by people who have few options isn't really the problem.
(, Tue 12 Dec 2017, 14:48, Reply)
This is a normal post Many billions of Chinese people would.
Also since you brought religion into it...

The rest of the world just accepts it as part of life if you're going to eat meat.

Your original point was that people wouldn't eat meat if they had to participate in the slaughter.
(, Tue 12 Dec 2017, 15:00, Reply)
This is a normal post Comparing populations isn't much use really.
See also FGM, child brides, witchcraft, Trump, ethnic cleansing etc.

People HERE would eat less meat.

Anyway, this is way too serious for B3ta.
(, Tue 12 Dec 2017, 15:25, Reply)
This is a normal post Personally I'd rather an "expert" kill it for me
Would be more humane than me trying to mash a chickens head in with a brick.
(, Tue 12 Dec 2017, 16:07, Reply)
This is a normal post Mmmmm
Chicken mash
(, Tue 12 Dec 2017, 21:00, Reply)
This is a normal post Isn't that what 'nuggets' are?

(, Tue 12 Dec 2017, 22:42, Reply)