Someone built a computer in 'Game of Life'
so they programmed it to play 'Game of Life'.
To some, this is proof that we could simulate our universe in our universe, and that is proof we are living in a simulation.
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My Name was saying these words inside your head on, Mon 5 Apr 2021, 13:28,
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I'm confused because Game of Life is a board game from the 1860s.
Is the computer built in the game as fast and as capable as the one running the game itself?
Is the universe that exists within the computer within the game as large and as complex as the universe of the game?
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brb man-child cuck corporate supplicant fuck, Mon 5 Apr 2021, 14:26,
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If the Game of Life is a board game and its playing the Game of Life then where is the sofa down the back of which an essential game piece has been lost
are we that game piece? Is our existence to slowly gather dust while facing the shadows dancing on the wall and believing them to be our world? In those shadows can we see the Game of Life play the Game of Life? What did they replace the missing piece with?
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What's missing down the back of a missing simulated sofa? More sofas? And what's missing down the back of them?
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brb man-child cuck corporate supplicant fuck, Mon 5 Apr 2021, 17:29,
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An interesting aspect of the question "are we living in a simulation" is that...
...it doesn't really matter how fast such an exterior computer is,
since the passage of time inside is just a simulated concept.
If the simulation is merely an algorithm ticking along somehow, it
shouldn't matter on what machine it ticks along, from the perspective
of anyone living inside the simulation.
One would imagine some absurdly advanced hyperdimensional supercomputer
more powerful and sophisticated than we would ever possibly imagine...
some kind of god machine.
But if it's just an algorithm it could all be handled with pen and paper
(or the outer universe's equivalent)... so long as the algorithm continues to
tick along in the outer universe, the inner simulated universe continues to run.
It might all be egg timers and abacuses for all we could ever know.
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A lot depends of the parameters of the simulation though...
Whether or not complexity is averaged out at scales and only becomes complex when observed, for example. Whether or not a single observation manifests for the entire universe or only for the observer, too.
Do all observers each have their our own simulated universe? Are microbes observers? I guess the universe simulated for an organism with no sense organs could be fairly basic, but you'd still require quadrillions of them.
If each Planck-tick in our simulation takes more than one Planck-tick in the next universe up, that's probably a post-stellar universe by now, unless the entire universe was only just created in this instant, with all our memories fabricated.
It's a tantalisingly silly and unfalsifiable idea.
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brb man-child cuck corporate supplicant fuck, Tue 6 Apr 2021, 15:32,
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probably requires less upkeep and smells less than the crab computer
because they're fun for mathematician to fuck around with, there's quite a few variant of conway's life. this one's called a cyclic cellular automaton. playing around with the influence rules of nearby cells gives some pretty trippy patterns
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Mon 5 Apr 2021, 15:35,
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That's not good to stare at for too long
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evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Mon 5 Apr 2021, 15:43,
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when I snap my fingers you will wake up and forget I ever said anything about dressing in a mr blobby suit and murdering noel edmonds with piano wire
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Mon 5 Apr 2021, 15:57,
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I have a blinding headache and an urge to visit Crinkley Bottom...
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evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Mon 5 Apr 2021, 16:57,
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christ
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Tue 6 Apr 2021, 8:33,
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