What’s your point, that there have been successful black pop artisis
So the music industry hasn’t been racist? Just want to know what your beef is with what Lizzo says - it may be fair but I’m not clear.
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garold you're on mute I SAID YOU'RE ON MUTE, Tue 29 Nov 2022, 8:19,
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"She explained: “I think if people did any research they would see that there was race music and then there was pop music. And race music was their way of segregating Black artists from being mainstream, because they didn’t want their kids listening to music created by Black and brown people because they said it was demonic and yada, yada, yada.”
I'd argue that some of the biggest, arguably the biggest Pop artists of the '80s were POC. Who did the whites get? A Flock of Seagulls? Rick Astley?
Of course there was (and is) discrimination in the music industry. But to suggest that black artists were somehow segregated and not given the same exposure as white artists is complete nonsense.
The woman is either a fucking moron, or worse, using the race debate to be deliberately inflammatory.
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I dunno like, I reckon 1980s Public Enemy would disagree with you there, 'benito vaselini'
(, Tue 29 Nov 2022, 9:39, Reply)
Oh, they had plenty to say about black pop artists, believe you me.
And as an aside, in the late 80s PE sold an awful lot of records, getting themselves in the 'pop charts'. But carry on.
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Ah, yes. Disagreeing with a black person, the most heinous of hate crimes in the 21st century.
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Only if wishing they'd stop banging on about it so much makes me a denier.
Probably does, these days.
(, Tue 29 Nov 2022, 11:46, Reply)
"Stop banging on about that time you got fucking gassed in your millions".
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After you my dear Alfonse No. After you., Wed 30 Nov 2022, 18:19,
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No. The most heinous crime is disagreeing
With a white person about what's best for a black person.
(, Tue 29 Nov 2022, 19:33, Reply)
Just noticed this thread
Most offended that you think I could be arsed typing all that out
(, Wed 30 Nov 2022, 9:24, Reply)
Well, I don't know if her point is incompatible with successful, mainstream black artists
You could go back to Cole Porter, through Little Richard etc. and the big Motown acts as examples of very successful black pop artist, but then I think David Bowie makes the point really well in 1983 about how racist MTV was:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZGiVzIr8Qg
I'd say Bowie and Lizzo would be making the same argument,
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garold you're on mute I SAID YOU'RE ON MUTE, Wed 30 Nov 2022, 9:57,
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