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This is a normal post How much diesel is burned by the ship transporting all our ultra green western electric car batteries across the sea from China?
Bring back galley slaves! Or at least market it as a free alternative to gym membership, combined with a round the world cruise.
 (I helped save b3ta! Turtle Power & Knuckles, Tue 16 May 2023, 16:59, , Reply)
This is a normal post To share the benefit break the voyage into smaller portions suitable for tourists who can be ensured they'll arrive beach body ready

(Mehitabel_Itrang, Tue 16 May 2023, 17:07, , Reply)
This is a normal post Divide it up between rowing machines and pedallers, half a million people working together should achieve 5 knots for this ship.
Only 40 years to wait until your container arrives at Felixstowe!
 (I helped save b3ta! Turtle Power & Knuckles, Tue 16 May 2023, 17:38, , Reply)
This is a normal post Not sure but
according to the IEA, "In 2021 international shipping accounted for ~2% of global energy-related CO2 emissions." It's also widely reported that container ships and tankers have been going slower to increase fuel efficiency in recent years.

If you're suggesting that drilling and burning dinosaur juice is just as bad as mining and burning coal, I don't think that's right. Dino juice is less radioactive, less sooty, and you don't need to engineer a new wasteland to extract it.

Don't get me wrong, it needs to be banned too, obvs.
 (I helped save b3ta! brb Learn Ukrainian and prepare for a referendum, Tue 16 May 2023, 18:02, , Reply)
This is a normal post Radioactive?
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 (I helped save b3ta! wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Tue 16 May 2023, 18:26, , Reply)
This is a normal post https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/coal-ash-is-more-radioactive-than-nuclear-waste/
www.scientificamerican.com/article/coal-ash-is-more-radioactive-than-nuclear-waste/
 (I helped save b3ta! tarka_dall Like normal dall, only a bit more spicy, Tue 16 May 2023, 18:43, , Reply)
This is a normal post What they said. ^

(I helped save b3ta! brb Learn Ukrainian and prepare for a referendum, Tue 16 May 2023, 19:13, , Reply)
This is a normal post The devil is in the details
Or in this particular case, the footnotes:

“As a general clarification, ounce for ounce, coal ash released from a power plant delivers more radiation than nuclear waste shielded via water or dry cask storage.”

So we’re comparing apples and oranges, then implying that one of those is a banana.
 (I helped save b3ta! wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Tue 16 May 2023, 20:49, , Reply)
This is a normal post Only if you don't understand.
A coal power plant releases more radiation than a nuclear plant, as your numbers clarify.

Mining practically anything releases Naturally Occurring Radioactive Materials (mostly radon gas but also some much nastier stuff).

Refining practically anything that's mined also produces NORMs. But unlike oil and gas, the burning of coal also produces NORMs.

Unlike with nuclear power stations, coal waste is just chucked into the environment. It's packed full of other nasty poisons and pollutants. It has (at least indirectly) contributed to the deaths of *millions* of people, and has a terrible effect on biodiversity and habitat loss. Coal is the worst of the worst. Best left buried.
 (I helped save b3ta! brb Learn Ukrainian and prepare for a referendum, Tue 16 May 2023, 21:08, , Reply)
This is a normal post Not disputing that
I’m disputing whether the effect is significant enough to warrant mentioning it whether it’s just another radiation scare story.

“At one extreme, the scientists estimated fly ash radiation in individuals' bones at around 18 millirems ”

For comparison:
“Each banana can emit .01 millirem” - source: www.epa.gov/radtown/natural-radioactivity-food

So a worst case estimate makes it equivalent to 1800 bananas. Or three per day.

I think you may need some perspective.
 (I helped save b3ta! wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Tue 16 May 2023, 23:02, , Reply)
This is a normal post That's some good trolling.
A banana a day will actually reduce your risk of cancer. Suffering a steam train to exist will increase your risk of cancer.

This is not complicated.
 (I helped save b3ta! brb Learn Ukrainian and prepare for a referendum, Tue 16 May 2023, 23:23, , Reply)
This is a normal post Imperceptibly

(I helped save b3ta! wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Wed 17 May 2023, 5:37, , Reply)
This is a normal post I wouldn't be surprised if the 'going slow' in recent years isn't due to delays loading and offloading in ports or a hope of seeing the benefits of contango
this is, after all, the same shipping industry that repeatedly kept extending the deadline for doing anything about carbon emissions
 (Mehitabel_Itrang, Tue 16 May 2023, 20:01, , Reply)