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This is a normal post Typical bickering on this thread.
Once the Tories are out, the left of center resume fighting each other.
This is why we can't have nice things.
 (I helped save b3ta! FeralCatMan Unusual disease collector., Sat 6 Jul 2024, 16:43, , Reply)
This is a normal post It'll be interesting to see how long some folk keep up the Labour arselicking
Before conceding that they're just as self-serving and incompetent as the Tories they're replacing.
Rayner the Usurper's first proper go at knocking Starmer out of office should start the ball rolling, I reckon.

Also, I've just put £500 down on Kemi Badenoch to replace Rishi Sunack. I'm convinced that the Tories will see putting a relatively young black woman in the driving seat as being a 100% surefire way to win over young voters as Labour flounder under the suffocating weight of 'Great British Energy' and the fact they'll have fuck all money to do anything without raising everybody's taxes.
The £1200 might take some of the sting out of that for a month or two. For me, at least.
 (Tony Hayers DEFUND THE POLICE, Sat 6 Jul 2024, 17:20, , Reply)
This is a normal post I wouldn't discount the racism of the members.
They will need to work out a new system for choosing a leader anyway, maybe they won't ask them this time.
 (I helped save b3ta! Zuowan, Sat 6 Jul 2024, 17:41, , Reply)
This is a normal post Politics is one of the few bloodsports still allowed.
I'd prefer a more boring politics where people fixed stuff rather than jockeying for position most of the time. Fighting culture wars and thinly disguised corruption should be left to the Americans, we have our own British class system to oppress each other with.
 (I helped save b3ta! FeralCatMan Unusual disease collector., Sat 6 Jul 2024, 20:07, , Reply)
This is a normal post 500 squid on the black farage?
she'd probably pull a few back from reform, granted, but she's pretty fringe with her views. hardline thatcher-poster-on-the-wall ex-fund manager brexiteer who hates teh gays isn't going to appealing to the centre left despite her well documented blackness. Kemi got the least number of backers in the last leadership spill, knocked out in the first round. Glad it's your money, though given all the scratchings I guess she's in with a chance
 (I helped save b3ta! cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Sun 7 Jul 2024, 1:15, , Reply)
This is a normal post I disagree. :)
The right's emphasis on loyalty and unity leads to mindless uniformity and blind faith in their ideological authorities. Leftist philosophy attempts a more scientific approach. Think of the bickering as peer review, or active error testing and correcting.
 (I helped save b3ta! brb Learn Ukrainian and prepare for a referendum, Sat 6 Jul 2024, 17:30, , Reply)
This is a normal post While I broadly agree...
...the social cohesiveness required for a party usually leads to tribalistic groups which then define their identity by infighting and hampering progress; See also competitiveness.
A few hundred thousand years or so of adaptation might sort it.
 (I helped save b3ta! FeralCatMan Unusual disease collector., Sat 6 Jul 2024, 19:54, , Reply)
This is a normal post or a near extinction-level cataclysm
whichever comes first
 (ozof, Tue 9 Jul 2024, 6:51, , Reply)
This is a normal post Wait until after the election
Wait until they've had time to settle in
Wait a bit longer, they still haven't had enough time yet
etc.
 (I helped save b3ta! Zuowan, Sat 6 Jul 2024, 17:37, , Reply)
This is a normal post "We're still in the Sunlight of Hope phase!"
"We won't begin seeing real change until we reach the Overcast Brunch of Discontent."
 (Huw Edwards #notalljews, Sat 6 Jul 2024, 17:57, , Reply)
This is a normal post Way before the "Silent Dinner of Realisation"

(I helped save b3ta! FeralCatMan Unusual disease collector., Sat 6 Jul 2024, 19:58, , Reply)