Devils In Skirts
Photos from The Gathering where thousands of Porridge-Wogs get together.
Gotta admit that that private army looks cool.
Cheers
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Legless Mister Stabby - shanks for the memory, Sun 26 Jul 2009, 12:05,
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seriously
"Porridge-wog"? SERIOUSLY? Even for you that's hideously offensive.
(, Sun 26 Jul 2009, 12:53, Reply)
I Suggest
you take it up with the Scot who introduced me to the term..
Edit: Actually, I'm bored so I think I'll expand on this. Watch this space.
I've used the term "Porridge-Wog to refer to Scots for years and have yet to find a single Scot who objects to it. Indeed, one night a few years back, I had two Scots coming down to London for a meeting and I created a Powerpoint presentation playing Scotland The Brave and flashing Welcome Porridge Wogs! - They pissed themselves laughing and the ice was broken.
Language is a funny thing and it evolves and changes as it goes on. To me and my generation, the term "nigger" is deeply offensive and I wouldn't dream of using it in front of some of my black mates but they don't give a monkeys and freely call each other nigger all of the time.
The word "wog" is one of those words who's power to sting has faded over the years. I don't even think it's used as an insult any more. I'll tell you a wee story.
My missus here in Oz is Greek and she refers to herself and other Greeks as "wogs". In fact there used to be a hit TV series over here called Wogs Like Us. It was about 2nd generation Greeks here in Oz.
By taking an offensive word and owing it - like the young blacks calling each other nigger or the Greeks calling themselves wogs - the word changes and no longer becomes an insult.
Still, that isn't to say I'd call anyone black a nigger. My own feelings for the word are too deeply ingrained for me to change.
I don't know if any of that made any sense but it felt good saying it.
Cheers
Double Edit: I love the "even for you"......
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Legless Mister Stabby - shanks for the memory, Sun 26 Jul 2009, 12:58,
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I think I agree with the comment below - just because someone told you it was acceptable doesn't make it so. The chaps who "pissed themselves" might perhaps represent part of the sizeable racist minority in Scotland who see no harm in either the term "wog" or "porridge-wog" itself.
Interesting point you make about "reclaiming" language, which fails a tad. Neither your Greek pals nor you are a "wog", using its traditional description. And whilst my nation rejoices at your attempt to bring the phrase "porridge-wog" out of disrepute, you're not fucking Scottish either.
"Language is a funny thing", eh? "It evolves and changes as it goes on"? But not so much that you wouldn't feel safe calling someone a nigger? Frankly there are plenty of people who think that, far from changing it from an insult to an empowering word, the use (or overuse) of "nigger" among young black men since the eighties has simply entrenched the use of a word many (including you) still recognise as offensive.
If I was addressed as a "porridge wog" by anyone, my first reaction would be to ask whether I was being spoken to by a simpleton. My second would be to thump him. It's an offensive term on a number of levels.
It's not as if there aren't a million other, less racist, derogatory terms for the Scottish... Christ, this is b3ta after all.
(, Sun 26 Jul 2009, 15:19, Reply)
Oh Get Over Yourself
In Australia, a wog is a Greek. Your "traditional description" only applies to the UK which just shows how little you know about language, it's uses and anywhere outside of your small world - which I presume is Scotland.
"If I was addressed as a "porridge wog" by anyone, my first reaction would be to ask whether I was being spoken to by a simpleton. My second would be to thump him. It's an offensive term on a number of levels."
Oh crap. Explain *why* you find it offensive? The Devils In Skirts didn't bother you so why does porridge-wog? Is it the porridge or the wog.
Thump me. Yeah, right. After that you'd go and screw a super-model.
In your dreams kiddy.
Cheers
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Legless Mister Stabby - shanks for the memory, Sun 26 Jul 2009, 15:52,
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I love it!
Internet fight club. Always hilarious. I love the way you move from Defcon 5 to 1, without spilling Sunny D all over your keyboard.
"Wog" is a nineteenth century word which originated in the UK, which refered to those of African and occasionally Asian origin. It became a racist epithet in Australia after the mass migration to the region from the Med that followed the end of the Second World - they had dark skin too, you see? Hence my point about it not being the "traditional description". And although normalised to a degree in Oz it's clear that this was in a similar fashion to the use of the word "nigger" in the US. You've been in the country long enough to know that, despite the fact your Greek friends use the word, there still exists a huge amount of racism towards the immigrant community which employs the very same term - a totally disproportionate amount of racism, in fact, for the country's population.
I'm pretty certain that shows how little YOU know about language, its uses and anywhere outside of your small world.
To answer your question, I actually think the phrase is probably more offensive to black people than the Scottish. At the same time, the negative connotations of "wog" also reflect your views of the Scottish. I suppose I'd turn the question round on you and ask why "porridge wog" tickles you so (beyond the obvious delight you're taking in trying to wind me up).
In fact, tell me what "porridge wog" actually means.
By the way, I wasn't threatening you in my earlier response... you are clearly a very big and scary man, and funny with it, as evidenced by your pithy witticism "In your dreams kiddy". That you assumed I was, AND that I still live in Scotland, reveals rather a lot about your assumptions about the Scottish - and perhaps explains why you can only respond to a Scotsman complaining about your use of language in such a belligerent fashion.
(, Sun 26 Jul 2009, 16:18, Reply)
Balls.
It's people like you who are trying to homogenise the the entire world. You can't be proud of who are and where you came from. You want to reduce the world to one one inoffensive girly cry of:
"We're all the same under the skin"
Well we're not.
I'm a child of the Universe (pass the sick bucket), then I'm a citizen of Earth, then I'm an ex-pat in Oz, then I'm a European, then I'm a UK citizen, then I'm a Brit, then I'm a Northener, then I'm a Geordie.
All all of them, it's being a Geordie that makes me proud.
And I have no idea where this is going.
But that's because
I am
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Legless Mister Stabby - shanks for the memory, Sun 26 Jul 2009, 16:40,
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Eh?
I just can't see the link between what I've written above, and your response. I also can't see a response to my question as to exactly what "porridge wog" means and why it's funny, but we'll gloss over that.
To accuse a Scotsman of not being proud of who he is and where he's come from is a bit silly, though. Fierce patriotism doesn't preclude being offended by loose language.
Oh, and I'd avoid using the phrase "It's people like you" when arguing that I'm the one indulging in over-simplification. Next you'll be saying that "they're all alike, the bloody jocks"..
(, Sun 26 Jul 2009, 16:45, Reply)
I'm with legless
I cant see what the fuss is about. I hear all the irish slang names get thrown at me by my mates all the time, and they get southerner/scouser/whatever back off me.
there is a world of difference between banter and race hate names IMO. anyone who cant tell the difference needs to develop a thicker skin.
(, Sun 26 Jul 2009, 15:58, Reply)
I used
to get every Thick Northerner, coal-in-the-bath slagging off joke/comment under the sun at one company I worked at as a contractor.
I'd just smile and say:
"I'm down here, in the smog, getting paid three times what you get to do things you Shandy-Drinking-Southern-Puffs are too stupid to do"
Cheers
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Legless Mister Stabby - shanks for the memory, Sun 26 Jul 2009, 16:11,
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oh calm down dear.
different countries have different meanings of the same word. as i found out when my mates american missis said she wanted to bonk his face. she didnt mean she wanted to have sex with it, just do something else on it.
i think porridge-wog is a great word and could be applied to porridge lovers, no matter where they are from.
The uk is so far up its own arse when it comes to being pc its stupid.
as for your mention of nigger, well only whites find it offence.
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Captain Pilchard The king of B-movies!, Sun 26 Jul 2009, 16:02,
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"only whites find it offence"
That's nonsense on 2 levels.
A lot of terms are offensive because of context rather than in and of themselves. If a white guy calls a black guy 'nigger' it would almost certainly be offensive, no?
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Fishcat Difficult difficult lemon difficult., Sun 26 Jul 2009, 16:55,
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porridge wog?
ffs man. if you think it's acceptable cos a scottish dude told you it was, you come here to leith and shout it in the street. if you decide to, please let me know so i can film it.
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tickle I was away, Sun 26 Jul 2009, 13:20,
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Err
Exactly what about the term offends you and why?
Cheers
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Legless Mister Stabby - shanks for the memory, Sun 26 Jul 2009, 13:25,
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Err
What is it about the term that you find funny and inoffensive?
(, Sun 26 Jul 2009, 15:22, Reply)
Err
Pretty much all of it.
Cheers
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Legless Mister Stabby - shanks for the memory, Sun 26 Jul 2009, 15:53,
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to be honest
I dont think anything would happen. I think people would find it fairly entertaining.
Also I doubt anyone would be able to hear it in leith over the tram works and the shouted ramblings of all the mentals that are all over the place.
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Nostrebor can't be everything all the time., Sun 26 Jul 2009, 13:32,
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shut it
you alcoholic porridge wog!
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Firkinfedup last shat on your wife's tits at, Sun 26 Jul 2009, 13:41,
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HA HA!
Nice link, nice term.
There have been two ace ones this week:
1. Chip Idiot
2. Porridge Wog
WELL DONE!
(, Sun 26 Jul 2009, 13:51, Reply)
What's
a chip idiot?
I missed that one. But I do have a gag about chips.
I was in a pub one day, for lunch, and the waitress came over.
"Can I have steak and chips please" I asked
"I'm sorry Sir. we don't serve chips" she said
"Then how did you get like that! I quipped...
"Fuck off you flat-capped wearing, whippet-keeping Geordie who keeps coal in the bath" she stormed....
Meh. Stereotypical jokes about Geordies , wound me, wound me to the quick.....
Cheers
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Legless Mister Stabby - shanks for the memory, Sun 26 Jul 2009, 14:01,
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Britons seem now to be very wary about having any form of fun in the language they use.
No idea why because whenever I go there the people around are quite normal & straight forward. I don't remember anyone referring to someone from a different background by using the politically correct term.
Maybe only the PC nonces use the internet so it only seems like it.
(, Sun 26 Jul 2009, 14:44, Reply)
Heh, I'm actually eating a bowl of porridge right now,,,,
What was this gathering then?
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vix0r was not Matthew on, Sun 26 Jul 2009, 14:48,
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But
Is it with salt.....
Or with sugar?
If I make it with milk, then it's sugar, with water then it has to be salt.
Cheers
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Legless Mister Stabby - shanks for the memory, Sun 26 Jul 2009, 16:22,
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I'm a sugar girl!
Apparently going against my country but I love sweet things. Mmm! =p
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vix0r was not Matthew on, Sun 26 Jul 2009, 22:16,
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not nutmeg and garam masala?
Try it, a flatmate many years ago spiked my standard 50/50 milk and water, and nutmeg is brilliant, It made me experiment, a pinch of garam as well and it is wonderfully sweet and sour.
(, Sun 26 Jul 2009, 23:37, Reply)
bugger, missed the 3rd
Is there a site to register for the next?
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NIrving Cannot think of anything to say!, Sun 26 Jul 2009, 20:46,
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IMO, "Porridge-Wog" is about as acceptable as "Noodle-Nigger" for Chinese.
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Evil Prof. Pixel Masher I made this!, Sun 26 Jul 2009, 21:09,
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My Scottish girlfriend
thinks you're a cunt, and so do I.
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sm.pl.crt.rs I don't fucking know, do I?, Mon 27 Jul 2009, 0:17,
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She's now my wife.
And we still think you're a cunt.
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sm.pl.crt.rs I don't fucking know, do I?, Wed 14 Dec 2016, 15:48,
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