Given that the Saudis have been very nervous of Irans nuclear ambitions this could be enough excuse for them to make a preemptive strike against Tehran.
In the past the Saudis have tried to convince the US to attack Iran but they may just have to do the dirty work themselves. Though it would be a harder fight than them helping to put down the Bahrain protesters afraid that it would lead to a larger Shi'ite uprising in the area.
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The key to understanding just how fake this story is can be found in the New York Times report, which informs us:
“For the entire operation, the government’s confidential sources were monitored and guided by federal law enforcement agents, Preet Bharara, the United States Attorney for the Southern District, said in the news conference. ‘So no explosives were actually ever placed anywhere,’ he said, ‘and no one was actually in ever in any danger.’”
Translation: the whole thing is phony from beginning to end.
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but I get a bit frustrated with the attitude that the press have which is where if a terror plot is foiled at an early stage then somehow the security services are over-reacting or oppressing people. Whereas if they leave it too late everyone gets killed.
EDIT: And the term sheeple makes me want to hurt someone (not sure if you're using it ironically or not).
(, Wed 12 Oct 2011, 13:22, Reply)
This is another one of US law enforcement’s manufactured “anti-terrorist” triumphs, where the feds set somebody up, fabricate a “crime” out of thin air, and then proceed to “solve” a case that never really existed to begin with.
(, Wed 12 Oct 2011, 13:25, Reply)
if it is all made up, or they don't simply want a new war
(, Wed 12 Oct 2011, 13:45, Reply)
despite even the american press admitting that it wasn't said
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"The idea that they would attempt to go to a Mexican drug cartel to solicit murder-for-hire to kill the Saudi ambassador, nobody could make that up, right?" Mrs Clinton said.
Are you implying that within a nation that houses many screenwriters and novelists, Hillary Clintons assertion above that nobody could make that up is in fact made up? Next you'll be telling us that the plot of Breaking Bad is fiction and somebody made THAT up! Loonie leftist.
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=FckLO8HcNyo
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there is something very fishy about this, if only because the Iranian government isn't that stupid. I mean: plotting to kill a Saudi Ambassador on US soil? That's just asking for an almighty fist-fucking.
I suppose it might, at a push, have been a scheme cooked up by some part of the Iranian establishment; or it might be someone else trying to cook up trouble.
But while both Ahmedinijad and some of the Ayatollahs are pretty unpleasant, I'm not sure that they're this dumb.
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The Iranian Revolutionary Guard, however, are. And they have a history of doing crazy stuff, like when they kidnapped those British sailors.
They are a state within a state, essentially, with access to large amounts of money.
(, Wed 12 Oct 2011, 13:43, Reply)
Because allegedly the Iranians had the bad luck to approach an undercover agent and as such there was no risk there's no crime here?
Also "Sheeple".... seriously?
(, Wed 12 Oct 2011, 13:29, Reply)
I seem to remember the warship, the USS Vincennes, shooting down an Iranian airbus killing all 300 people aboard in 1988, and also a certain ex Secretary of Defense shaking hands with Saddam after selling him anthrax and mustard gas which Saddam used to kill half a million Iranians.....
(, Wed 12 Oct 2011, 13:48, Reply)
Every state kills, it's part of how they work. You don't need to go back over 20 years to find evidence of U.S state killing. However that doesn't mean they shouldn't be prosecuted when they're stupid enough to get caught planning to put a bomb in a restaurant.
Also having had Iranians I know for a fact defending the post revolutionary rulers just because the other side is "The great satan" is not going to get you any credibility.
Have a chat with a female friend of mine sometime that was locked up for weeks because she was given a lift home late one night with a male co-worker and was picked up my the morality police.
She and her husband had to flee Iran after that.
Both sides are arseholes, one side is more likely to cause harm to me though.
(, Wed 12 Oct 2011, 14:10, Reply)
The announcement this late smacks of political opportunism
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"Mr Arbabsiar, who was arrested at New York's John F Kennedy airport on 29 September, has confessed to his involvement in the alleged plot, Mr Holder said."
Also there's the case American courts being public.
Well they could have given them one of those secret military trials that are all so popular but they've chosen and open court by the looks of things.
(, Wed 12 Oct 2011, 14:15, Reply)
The president was briefed on this in June. It was the delay, especially when human lives were involved that made it look suspect.
(, Wed 12 Oct 2011, 14:28, Reply)
I would suspect that between June and when he was picked up they were building a case.
Admittedly they could have bypassed due process and just bumped them off in June and that would be the end of it. So they probably are trying to embarrass the Iranian leadership.
Or, they could have been holding off waiting for the release of the American hikers/ spies.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-14897868
They could be fairly safe in the knowledge their undercover agent wouldn't be supplying explosives.
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And Coxxy's a fine one to talk! Coming across the pond, posting on our UK messageboard; with his "fanny-packs" and "have a nice day"s and "restrooms"....
*stands up, sings national anthem*
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Fanny's...
Last time I mixed up a vag and an arsehole I got a slap and had to sleep on the sofa.
(, Wed 12 Oct 2011, 15:15, Reply)
obviously completly illegal and an act of war, unlike the US planning to execute a saudi prince in pakistan
(, Wed 12 Oct 2011, 15:41, Reply)
we're the good guys and they're the bad guys. You know, like in the movies.
(, Wed 12 Oct 2011, 16:27, Reply)