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This is a normal post oh boo hoo,
it's just bollocks. Anyone who gets upset at the mere sight of a testicle needs to grow up. Unless he's doing some harm to someone he can dress as he likes, or not.
 (I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 17:13, Reply)
This is a normal post think more

(Ol' Ginger Bastard a role model for the children, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 17:18, Reply)
This is a normal post if I think really really hard,
will I start finding the sight of bare ankles indecent as well?
 (I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 17:20, Reply)
This is a normal post bare ankles in public doesn't deviate from the current social norm.
would you really want to get the tube with a load of naked men with semis?
 (I helped save b3ta! tickle I was away, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 17:27, Reply)
This is a normal post oh they all have semis now, ok.
so it's all about social norms, is it. should the law uphold all social norms?
 (I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 17:30, Reply)
This is a normal post what is the law
if not the current (well probably slightly out of date what with the slow pace of legislative change) social norms codified into a set of rules for people to follow?

hence men fucking one another in the bumhole being previously illegal but now legal. or a gentleman beating/raping ones wife being once legal but now illegal.
 (I helped save b3ta! tickle I was away, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 17:36, Reply)
This is a normal post was it right that homosexuality used to be illegal?
and those other things?
 (I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 17:37, Reply)
This is a normal post what do you mean right?

(I helped save b3ta! tickle I was away, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 17:38, Reply)
This is a normal post I mean was that the way it ought to have been?
Or, let me put this another way, is this what you say, that if society at large is homophobic, that homophobia should be enshrined in law? And sexism, and misogyny and racism, all those other things that we're glad aren't tolerated anymore.
 (I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 17:43, Reply)
This is a normal post personally i think these laws were appaling but then again
i've been socialised into THE CURRENT SOCIAL NORM so i would think that wouldn't i?

edit:ooft on my spelling.
 (I helped save b3ta! tickle I was away, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 17:46, Reply)
This is a normal post Why don't you two trade naked pics of eachother and break this tension.
Jeepers mister.
 (I helped save b3ta! BrokenCoccyx doesn't mind if you grope on, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 18:14, Reply)
This is a normal post i'll go first.
tickle
 (I helped save b3ta! tickle I was away, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 18:17, Reply)
This is a normal post Wait, you mean they're NOT?
Oh man, sadtimes.
:(
 (I helped save b3ta! stuj (^(^;;^)^) GO TEAM SPIDERS!(^(^;;^)^), Fri 20 Jul 2012, 21:46, Reply)
This is a normal post Yep
That is why we have laws with terms like "public indecency". The idea of what is indecent is constantly changing and this way a good judge can interpret the law in tune with current values.
 (I helped save b3ta! MyFrontFellOff ; his mouth full of teddies, urinating defiantly, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 17:41, Reply)
This is a normal post don't talk sense.
:D
 (I helped save b3ta! tickle I was away, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 17:42, Reply)
This is a normal post OK, Fuck off then! Ya big nudie turd burgler
Is that better?
 (I helped save b3ta! MyFrontFellOff ; his mouth full of teddies, urinating defiantly, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 17:49, Reply)
This is a normal post much
ta
 (I helped save b3ta! tickle I was away, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 17:56, Reply)
This is a normal post Once upon a time it did...

(MrOli is ugly, but in the morning you will be sober, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 17:37, Reply)
This is a normal post totally. and it's changed.
as social norms do. possibly partly cos of activism of teh naked ramblers type of activism.

i'm not arguing that wearing clothes is right or wrong, just that it's a social norm and if you deviate from a social norm you will often be breaking the law and should expect the consequences. the naked rambler does expect it. i think he has a better handle on the situation than moon girl.
 (I helped save b3ta! tickle I was away, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 17:42, Reply)
This is a normal post It is a social norm,
but I do not believe that the purpose of the law is to uphold conformity to social norms, it is to protect vulnerable people from harm.

I don't believe that wandering around naked is wrong or that it does anybody any harm and I fully support anyone's right to do it if they wish. If society has a problem with that, society has to justify it.
 (I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 17:47, Reply)
This is a normal post google law and read whatever article comes up first.

(I helped save b3ta! tickle I was away, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 17:50, Reply)
This is a normal post Thank you.
I think I agree with this man
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Dworkin
 (I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 18:47, Reply)
This is a normal post fuck if that's your first result you should use duckduckgo instead of google.

(I helped save b3ta! tickle I was away, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 19:03, Reply)
This is a normal post haha no,
I got the Wikipedia article on Law but I clicked through some links.
 (I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 19:08, Reply)
This is a normal post so you saw the socially normal definition then kept clicking til you found some outlier guy.
what a surprise.

look i'm not a super mainstream person and i think that a naked dude isn;t doing me any harm but i'm not everyone and it seems like the general consensus (in society rather than on b3ta) is that people ought to keep their clothes on. are you able to see that?
 (I helped save b3ta! tickle I was away, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 19:14, Reply)
This is a normal post There is no "socially normal" definition that I can see,
the definition is:
Law is a system of rules and guidelines which are enforced through social institutions to govern behavior.[3] Laws are made by governments, specifically by their legislatures. The formation of laws themselves may be influenced by a constitution (written or unwritten) and the rights encoded therein. The law shapes politics, economics and society in countless ways and serves as a social mediator of relations between people.

Nowhere is law defined as "social norms", do point me to the paragraph you are referring to. I hope you aren't misunderstanding the term "normative". If you look that up you will get back to Dworkin again.
 (I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 19:24, Reply)
This is a normal post Do you really think if people disagree
with the law then they should just break it anyway, rather than campaign to change it?

There are plenty of naturist places to go if you want to walk around in the nip. This guy is just an attention seeking moron.
 (I helped save b3ta! monkeon schmonkeon, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 18:59, Reply)
This is a normal post First really good point so far!
Well it depends on the law, I think. There are some things that the law, to my mind, simply has no right to forbid. I've spoken to plenty of people who take this line on recreational drugs, in fact I've had these conversations on B3ta.

Maybe there should be a campaign to change it, because it's a silly law, but it's also a fairly trivial issue that not many people care about, I guess.
 (I helped save b3ta! Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 19:16, Reply)
This is a normal post Well, I suspect they have different social norms on the moon.
On the tube he should probably wear clothes. On Bodmin Moor, I'd probably leave him to it.
 (MrOli is ugly, but in the morning you will be sober, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 17:50, Reply)
This is a normal post for sure.
if it was me i'd leave him to it on the tube too but i'm not everyone and i have to respect other people's views. anything for the quiet life.
 (I helped save b3ta! tickle I was away, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 17:59, Reply)
This is a normal post mmmnnng mmmmnnnngggg bare ankles nnnngggn

(I helped save b3ta! fluffybunnykiller Is feasting on the clitoris of life, Fri 20 Jul 2012, 17:58, Reply)