How many criminals have they got?
Make possession of a fire arm a life sentence. Make having bullets in your possession the same.
Trust me, it wouldn't take too long to weed out the scum. You are talking about people who are basicaly cowards to start with. When a few of these sad fat fucks are sitting in San Quentin hoping they don't get raped, it'll drop right off.
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Make possession of a fire arm a life sentence. Make having bullets in your possession the same.
Trust me, it wouldn't take too long to weed out the scum. You are talking about people who are basicaly cowards to start with. When a few of these sad fat fucks are sitting in San Quentin hoping they don't get raped, it'll drop right off.
( , Sat 15 Dec 2012, 16:36, Share, Reply)
It is that simple.
Who's said it isn't?
All those 'patriots'?
( , Sat 15 Dec 2012, 17:04, Share, Reply)
Who's said it isn't?
All those 'patriots'?
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oh sorry, my mistake...
remind me, how did that war on drugs work out?
( , Sat 15 Dec 2012, 17:24, Share, Reply)
remind me, how did that war on drugs work out?
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nothing like this?
You can't 'take' guns.
How did banning automatic weapons and hand guns work out in the UK?
Oh yeah....really fucking well.
( , Sat 15 Dec 2012, 17:32, Share, Reply)
You can't 'take' guns.
How did banning automatic weapons and hand guns work out in the UK?
Oh yeah....really fucking well.
( , Sat 15 Dec 2012, 17:32, Share, Reply)
oh yeah...
i remember well when the UK decided to ban outright handguns post Dunblane, even though their ownership was already extremely strictly regulated. i felt then, as i do now, that a total blanket ban was a knee-jerk over-reaction made by fools who believe that they can legislate against the dark side of human nature. it didn't work out particularly well as guess what, some people don't give a shit if is a handgun is illegal or not, and many handguns continue to be used to wound and kill, so it didn't solve the problem.
as for the banning of automatic weapons, i don't remember that, because it never fucking happened, because they were never legal in the first place.
( , Sat 15 Dec 2012, 17:43, Share, Reply)
i remember well when the UK decided to ban outright handguns post Dunblane, even though their ownership was already extremely strictly regulated. i felt then, as i do now, that a total blanket ban was a knee-jerk over-reaction made by fools who believe that they can legislate against the dark side of human nature. it didn't work out particularly well as guess what, some people don't give a shit if is a handgun is illegal or not, and many handguns continue to be used to wound and kill, so it didn't solve the problem.
as for the banning of automatic weapons, i don't remember that, because it never fucking happened, because they were never legal in the first place.
( , Sat 15 Dec 2012, 17:43, Share, Reply)
You wouldn't remember automatic weapons being banned
it was in 1937.
Semi-automatics went after Hungerford.
Handguns after Dunblane. As you say 'strictly regulated' but not so strictly that Thomas Hamilton couldn't own several...
How many people were shot and killed by handguns in 2011 in the UK?
( , Sat 15 Dec 2012, 18:01, Share, Reply)
it was in 1937.
Semi-automatics went after Hungerford.
Handguns after Dunblane. As you say 'strictly regulated' but not so strictly that Thomas Hamilton couldn't own several...
How many people were shot and killed by handguns in 2011 in the UK?
( , Sat 15 Dec 2012, 18:01, Share, Reply)
what, am i your google bitch now? don't know, don't care, going to the pub, yes banning all guns will solve everthing in a very short period of time, it is also a realistic and achievable political aim that will easily be legislated for. oh and aren't americans cunts? happy now?
( , Sat 15 Dec 2012, 18:09, Share, Reply)
2010/11 figures reveal offences commited with handguns was at 3,105
down from its peak (since 1969) of 5,874 in 2002, yet still not below the pre 1996 average. the number of offences committed with shotguns, which happen to be legal btw, was 608.
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down from its peak (since 1969) of 5,874 in 2002, yet still not below the pre 1996 average. the number of offences committed with shotguns, which happen to be legal btw, was 608.
( , Sat 15 Dec 2012, 18:15, Share, Reply)
Define "Hand gun crime".
If the statistics include the new offence of "posession", then of course they'll go up.
( , Sat 15 Dec 2012, 18:17, Share, Reply)
If the statistics include the new offence of "posession", then of course they'll go up.
( , Sat 15 Dec 2012, 18:17, Share, Reply)
the statistics do not include posession, they are crimes in which handguns were used, robbery etc
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Handguns are smaller
hence, easier to conceal, ship, sell illegally etc etc
( , Sat 15 Dec 2012, 18:38, Share, Reply)
hence, easier to conceal, ship, sell illegally etc etc
( , Sat 15 Dec 2012, 18:38, Share, Reply)
Guns became illegal.
If you want to keep / sell an illegal item, you'll want to keep it hidden. Small things hide easy. It's in their nature.
( , Sat 15 Dec 2012, 18:49, Share, Reply)
If you want to keep / sell an illegal item, you'll want to keep it hidden. Small things hide easy. It's in their nature.
( , Sat 15 Dec 2012, 18:49, Share, Reply)
that doesn't explain why the use of handguns in violent crime went up though does it?
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But did the use of larger, automatic weapons and shotguns go down?
I don't have any stats, but they more than likely did, and were replaced by easier to conceal handguns. There are prob a lot of other factors at play here, if the fact that what you state is even true at all.
( , Sat 15 Dec 2012, 18:54, Share, Reply)
I don't have any stats, but they more than likely did, and were replaced by easier to conceal handguns. There are prob a lot of other factors at play here, if the fact that what you state is even true at all.
( , Sat 15 Dec 2012, 18:54, Share, Reply)
what larger automatic weapons?
there a lot of factors at play, which is why effective policing and education work a lot better than blanket bans.
www.parliament.uk/briefing-papers/sn01940.pdf
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there a lot of factors at play, which is why effective policing and education work a lot better than blanket bans.
www.parliament.uk/briefing-papers/sn01940.pdf
( , Sat 15 Dec 2012, 19:05, Share, Reply)
I'm sorry I don't agree.
If guns are made illegal, ie hard to get hold of them, you will reduce these problems. Gun crime will still happen, it's inevitable, but making them less available helps to control them against pointless misuses (a 6 year old child finding his parents guns and shooting his brother dead for example)
( , Sun 16 Dec 2012, 11:12, Share, Reply)
If guns are made illegal, ie hard to get hold of them, you will reduce these problems. Gun crime will still happen, it's inevitable, but making them less available helps to control them against pointless misuses (a 6 year old child finding his parents guns and shooting his brother dead for example)
( , Sun 16 Dec 2012, 11:12, Share, Reply)
yeah because anyone who owns a firearm deserves a life sentence
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They do when they're illegal.
They've become part of the problem.
( , Sat 15 Dec 2012, 17:11, Share, Reply)
They've become part of the problem.
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the ones you can use to kill people
or make people think they can be killed with, like a replica in a robbery etc.
Law enforcement allowed to keep theirs until such time that gun crime has dropped to a level where they don't need them.
( , Sat 15 Dec 2012, 17:21, Share, Reply)
or make people think they can be killed with, like a replica in a robbery etc.
Law enforcement allowed to keep theirs until such time that gun crime has dropped to a level where they don't need them.
( , Sat 15 Dec 2012, 17:21, Share, Reply)
they are just the first target
in my confectionery campaign of violence
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in my confectionery campaign of violence
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I'm suprised no government has banned that 'death by chocolate' stuff
guns don't kill people, schwarzwälder kirschtorte kills people
( , Sat 15 Dec 2012, 18:33, Share, Reply)
guns don't kill people, schwarzwälder kirschtorte kills people
( , Sat 15 Dec 2012, 18:33, Share, Reply)
guns don't kill people
rappers do. I seen it on a documentary on bbc2
( , Sat 15 Dec 2012, 18:34, Share, Reply)
rappers do. I seen it on a documentary on bbc2
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no but it's one of the first things I ever learnt in German
and I think, up until this point, I have had absolutely no use for it
( , Sat 15 Dec 2012, 19:09, Share, Reply)
and I think, up until this point, I have had absolutely no use for it
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Should all illegal things
carry a life sentence?
Might make prisons a bit expensive to run.
( , Sat 15 Dec 2012, 17:14, Share, Reply)
carry a life sentence?
Might make prisons a bit expensive to run.
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