why be so arsey about it? its just that your story isn't creepy at all, unless the reader accepts that spirits exist. Fucking about with a ouija board has been done by just about everyone, and you didn't have particularly dramatic results from your ouija board experience, so there isnt even a sense created of "well I dont believe it, but I must admit thats a bit weird" To be honest, to begin with I really wasn't being pedantic or getting on a materialist high horse, I just honestly thought you had omitted something from your story that would have made the point clearer
(clinteastwoodbradfield, Fri 8 Apr 2011, 12:38, 2 replies)

I think you're replying to the wrong post again.

( Wet-chinned bag shanker Cannot parse Wogan, Fri 8 Apr 2011, 12:47, closed)

so I did.
(clinteastwoodbradfield, Fri 8 Apr 2011, 12:51, closed)

Well it's just that I got the impression that by stating clearly
"since spirits don't exist" you were being rather reductive and, in doing so, not only missing the point of "Creepy!", but by very deliberately pointing this out, pissing on the story.

If it's no good, it's no good - the world will still turn - but it came across as deliberately destructive of my effort - in a similar vein to telling people the end of a movie or book.

So yes - I got arsey about it.
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Fri 8 Apr 2011, 12:56, closed)

Sorry, they do exist. I didn't mean to upset you.
(clinteastwoodbradfield, Fri 8 Apr 2011, 13:15, closed)

Quantum ghosts
both exist
and don't.
( Blind Meach Cautiously optimistic, Fri 8 Apr 2011, 13:23, closed)

Hahahaha

( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Fri 8 Apr 2011, 13:25, closed)

I have never claimed they do exist.
It was the militancy of it.

Preachy atheism is just as annoying as preachy theism, particularly when delivered with killjoy harmonics.
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Fri 8 Apr 2011, 13:25, closed)

Militancy? What? For not taking your story at face value? Your story implicitly asked the reader to believe your take on events, including your faith that the former Latin student didn't know Latin. What exactly is militant about enquiring a bit further?

There is a story posted since this about a little girl who claimed to see a woman in black. That story doesn't make any claims about ghosts and it credits us with being able to see it as either a ghost story or a story about childrens ability to be quite freaky at times, so it works. You have pretty much called me Richard Dawkins for not going "wow" about a story involving a drunk Latin student and a Latin phrase coming up in a ouija board.
(clinteastwoodbradfield, Fri 8 Apr 2011, 13:34, closed)

What do you want, a medal?
Yes it was probably him, no ghosts probably don't exist.

Well done Sherlock bleedin Holmes.

Really - lighten up - IT WAS JUST A BIT OF FUN, but well done, you've successfully smashed it to the ground.
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Fri 8 Apr 2011, 13:49, closed)

meh, you know what?
I normally like your stories vag, but this one just didn't really work. It was not unreasonable for others to ask for clarification, but you've just spat the dummy.

Disappointing.
( kappynitty doubled your entendre on, Fri 8 Apr 2011, 14:20, closed)

Killjoy & the Harmonics
Thats the new name for my band right there.

Cheers Mr V
( bane, Fri 8 Apr 2011, 13:35, closed)

You're welcome.

( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Fri 8 Apr 2011, 13:39, closed)

What?
Again with the bizarre extrapolation. Why is he an atheist? Why does his disbelief in the existence of spirits necessarily extend to a disbelief in the existence of god (it may, I don't know)? Again you're trying to paint clint as some militant, preachy, joy-sucking, materialist who must believe in nothing at all just because he pointed out the not-at-all-creepy and glaringly obvious explanation for this supposedly creepy event.

And I still don't know what the tramp has got to do with anything.
(flimflam_machine, Fri 8 Apr 2011, 15:43, closed)

After being out in the sun and being in a better mood, thought I would pop back and say that no offence was meant, but do think that the initial post was a bit convoluted and needed clarification, and that giving clarification probably involved having to play up the supernatural aspect making it all seem a bit silly and making me seem more joyless than I meant to when I was underwhelmed by it. Didn't mean to piss on your chips so am sorry, have good weekend
(clinteastwoodbradfield, Fri 8 Apr 2011, 17:22, closed)

group hug!

( kappynitty doubled your entendre on, Fri 8 Apr 2011, 18:01, closed)