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IHateSprouts tells us they once avoided getting caught up in an IRA bomb attack by missing a train. Tell us how you've dodged the Grim Reaper, or simply avoided a bit of trouble.

(, Thu 19 Aug 2010, 12:31)
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My job
No funnies I,m afraid,but I got sacked last Friday,got an appeal tommorow,hope its gonna be a narrow escape and get my job back.
(, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 23:40, 3 replies)
Good Luck with that. Although not essential for success, I'd suggest:

Contemparaneous Notes - The most important of all: You, or a rep, should take thorough notes as you go along. Making a written record of everything you and they say can intimidate bosses making weak cases, and make it easier to win an external solution if needed.

Representation - Ideally you'd be in a union, but even a trusted colleague can help. In any case, you probably should be allowed time to privately talk tactics beforehand. A rep can provide you with a witness if needed, and helps cancel out the employers classic tactic of a "2 managers versus 1 of you" advantage. There is a risk of management retaliation against your rep to consider.

Evidence - Accusations from them (or you) should be backed up with proof, not opinion. You might want to see or request a copy of their evidence, since they instigated dismissal they should be able to offer proof to support themselves.

You can't stop them introducing surprise evidence, stuff you didn't know existed; but you might be able to object if they do, and in the long run that trick could even help you.

Civility - Politeness from you helps you, both now and later. It's hard to fight, but rudeness can just confirm their belief in their position: "Confirmation Bias".

Focus - Don't be flattered or distracted by empty compliments; Work out your approach beforehand; work methodically towards your goal; ask questions again if they aren't answered the first time; don't be rushed into an early finish.

Breaks - If the appeal goes on, don't be afraid to suggest a short break; for toilets, food, air, water, conferring with your rep, or letting the panel find answers to your questions. If they refuse it might make them look bad; and if you're lucky they'll appreciate a little rest as well.

( Disclaimer: I am not a relevant professional; and while I've "won a few battles" with my last terrible employer, I ended up "losing the war" with a delayed, fabricated, and unfightable dismissal, my health in ruins. It's possible that leaving works out better for you. I'd have given you better advice with more time and more detail; but I hope this helps. )

Anyone got anything else?
(, Thu 26 Aug 2010, 1:03, closed)
Why would you want that job back?
They've already sacked you once. Even if it was entirely unjustified (and based on the fact that you have an appeal I'm guessing that's the case here), then who's to say they won't engineer another reason in a month or two? It you truly deserved to be sacked then accept it and move on, if you didn't then accept that someone there wants you out. Either way that job will never be yours again, even if you get reinstated - you'll always have a question mark hanging over you as to whether it wasn't actually the right action after all.

If you feel you were unjustly sacked, then the best thing to do is to turn this appeal to your advantage. Instead of going cap-in-hand and pleading for your old position, outline why they were wrong, then ask that they pay you for your notice period and any outstanding salary/holiday; no more, no less. Then move on with your pride intact and your wallet fat. If you genuinely did deserve it, then walk in, apologise and leave.

Either way, go get a copy of the local job paper.
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