Not with you there......
big difference between a short sharp clip compared to "beating to a pulp".
With younger kids a light smack in a timely fashion is quite effective, particularly if you know that they are feeling the "boundaries".
(M61A1 CUPID- STUNTS, Mon 5 Mar 2012, 14:56, 2 replies)

Damn right.
These do-gooding cunts are the first to whine when their car gets nicked by some little scrote though, always bemoaning the problem of "Feral Children" that their bedwetting liberal hand-wringing sensibilities created.
( stuj (^(^;;^)^) GO TEAM SPIDERS!(^(^;;^)^), Mon 5 Mar 2012, 14:59, closed)

It's effective
in the sense that "it has an effect". Since that effect is "shows them that larger, stronger people can use physical violence rather than rational explanation" with a side order of "the person hitting me is too stupid to offer a rational explanation" the overall result may not be quite what was intended.
(ubergeekian, Mon 5 Mar 2012, 17:32, closed)

Yes, because what a 4 year old needs is a rational explanation.
(jono_h, Mon 5 Mar 2012, 18:33, closed)

so you'd only hit children when they're too young to understand the rationale
that'll end well.
( Ring Of Fire A petty, drooling belming butthurt retard., Mon 5 Mar 2012, 20:09, closed)

don't be silly! the child learns that violence is the best reaction.

( mark morrisons prison shoes I love Willie, Mon 5 Mar 2012, 20:16, closed)

Just pointing out that rationally explaining to young Jimmy that putting marbles up his nose is silly because he will have to go to hospital to have them pulled out, is unlikely to be effective.

It can be equally pointless trying to rationally explain things to teenagers.
(jono_h, Mon 5 Mar 2012, 21:06, closed)

Marbles up the nose?
at least you didn't do the usual knitting needle in the plug socket or hand in the fire that proponents of violence against children usually wheel out.
( Ring Of Fire A petty, drooling belming butthurt retard., Mon 5 Mar 2012, 21:12, closed)

Four year olds are perfectly capable of rational thought
as long as you appreciate that they don't know as much as older people and that their rational thought is therefore rather more simplistic than ours.

"Don't do that because I say so" is just as logical an explanation to them as "Don't do that because otherwise I will hit you"
(ubergeekian, Mon 5 Mar 2012, 22:52, closed)

No it isn't.
Because their tiny unformed minds are not capable of understanding actions and consequences without physical reinforcement.
( stuj (^(^;;^)^) GO TEAM SPIDERS!(^(^;;^)^), Tue 6 Mar 2012, 8:20, closed)

It's effective
because done properly, it's an instantaneous negative re-enforcement and easily associated with the behaviour that caused it. Simply cause and effect without any longwinded shit....... works on anything with a short attention span. Usually does not need to be repeated for the same issue.
(M61A1 CUPID- STUNTS, Thu 8 Mar 2012, 0:48, closed)