God made me do it...
"God told me to stand for election" George W Bush, 2000.

"God told me to end the tyranny in Iraq" Dubya again, 2003.

"God will be my judge on Iraq" Tony Blair, 2003.

Regardless of what God might think, I think they're both cunts.

I'm sure 87,600 dead Iraqi civillians would agree.
(Bicycle Repairman "you're also a bit of a wanker", Fri 20 Mar 2009, 11:41, 10 replies)

Silly PJM...
Dead people can't have opinions.

Unless you're suggesting there's an afterlife.
And that would make you one of THEM...
( Cawl, Fri 20 Mar 2009, 11:48, closed)

I was going to say the same thing!
It would be the families they've left behind who would agree.

Silly PJ, now drop and give me twenty.
( Bert Monkeysex is waiting for the mods to delete him, Fri 20 Mar 2009, 11:59, closed)

Blair
Didn't he actually say that history would be his judge? That's even stupider, though.

It's the future that'll judge him, not history.

The grinning halfwit.
( Enzyme is powered by sunlight, Fri 20 Mar 2009, 12:01, closed)

*pfft*
Did you know that spurting red wine out of your nose hurts?

I do - now.

I've never heard that line and it's filed away for future use...

Cheers
( Legless Mister Stabby - shanks for the memory, Fri 20 Mar 2009, 12:17, closed)

I think
that your figures are a little bit out there mate.

I remember one count that was in excess of 600 000


Cheers
( Legless Mister Stabby - shanks for the memory, Fri 20 Mar 2009, 12:18, closed)

For the sake of avoiding controversy...
I'm using the "official" UN count.

The "real" figure could be as high as 1.2 million and has been touted to be as low as 35,000.

Whatever way, it's a fucking abherration.
(Bicycle Repairman "you're also a bit of a wanker", Fri 20 Mar 2009, 12:21, closed)

Maybe
the majority of them thought it was OK to be killed and only the 87600 were a bit "put out"
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Fri 20 Mar 2009, 12:22, closed)

I Agree
If I was responsible for the deaths of any where near that number of people I'd have to take the swans path.

Unless they were French

Cheers
( Legless Mister Stabby - shanks for the memory, Fri 20 Mar 2009, 12:30, closed)

So
Kitchener, who allowed his visage to entice all those young tommies down to the battlefields of the first world war should have killed himself for it? I mean around 60k died on the first day of the Somme. On our side alone.
That's 85k people who've been killed in iraq over many _years_. As far as wars go, it's not that bad- there are no trenches or mustard gas. And I'm pretty sure landmines are banned so they're not used (at least openly) by our side.

And how many of the 85,000 were soldiers- trained in combat and prepared to die for their country / beliefs / family? Or people who were otherwise attacking our (admittedly invading) troops?

And anyway, if Saddam Hussein had been killed and then we'd just left (or never gone in and just used some sort of assassin) there would have been a power vacuum- leading to civil war and millions of deaths before it's all resolved.

I don't like the iraq war, but get some perspective. Far, FAR worse wars have been fought and the consequences for half-arsing it would be far, far worse.

Anyway, on the original point of him not questioning his faith in God when the Tsunamis killed people, why should he? It was clearly part of Gods grand design.
( uberdeity Wondered why Owen Lars knew of the term "hell" on, Fri 20 Mar 2009, 16:20, closed)

Ah, yes, God must have told him to end the tyranny in Iraq
because it's dreadful to see such people living under the terror of religious extremism.

Hang on...
(LongJohnBaldry, Fri 20 Mar 2009, 17:38, closed)