Newsflash: You have been able to do that on everyother smartphone (and some stupid phones) for YEARS
I was ranting about how annoyed I get at Apple making fucking HUGE songs and dances about irrelevant shit that every other phone has had for ages and eveyone gets excited because finally their shitty iphone can do the same things as my 3 year old Nokia
( TGB checking Off Topic is still shit at, Thu 13 Jan 2011, 11:42, 3 replies, latest was 15 years ago)

Same here. The iPad is a case in point.
Apple dress up technology in pretty clothes and claim a revolution. It gets right on my wick.

Edit: With half the functionality, mind you. The iPhone is one of the most locked down pieces of technology out there. If I'm spending 400 pounds on a piece of kit, I want to be able to play with it, thanks.
( Kroney, Thu 13 Jan 2011, 11:44, Reply)

Yeah I have a £70 vodafone own brand (yeah my cool points just went up) android phone
and it's pretty funky actually. Does most things my Desire did just slower and with a smaller less shiny screen :p
( TGB checking Off Topic is still shit at, Thu 13 Jan 2011, 11:48, Reply)

I'm using a Nokia n900.
Kind of wish I'd gone Android now, though. Android's a good mix of ease of use and function. Maemo's great for building shit on but I have now realised that I don't have the time or inclination for heavy dev work
( Kroney, Thu 13 Jan 2011, 11:50, Reply)

Why did you get rid of the Desire?
I'm considering getting one.
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Thu 13 Jan 2011, 11:51, Reply)

IT WAS STOLEN
keep up
( TGB checking Off Topic is still shit at, Thu 13 Jan 2011, 11:53, Reply)

I didn't know.
Was it a fine phone? Or a bit 'meh'?
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Thu 13 Jan 2011, 12:02, Reply)

someone on here once said
"aren't they for people who can't afford an iphone"

which i thought was odd because my iphone was absolute peanuts - about £40, i think (sorry roota) - when i took another 2 year contract out with orange.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 13 Jan 2011, 11:55, Reply)

Actually I'm going to edit this out
No way are you daft enough not to know how loans work.
( Kroney, Thu 13 Jan 2011, 11:57, Reply)

Same can be said for any contract phone then

( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Thu 13 Jan 2011, 11:59, Reply)

Yes indeed.

( Kroney, Thu 13 Jan 2011, 12:00, Reply)

Yes it can, but you don't really think the phone only cost £40 do you?
If that was the case I could say my phone was free, but I know I'm paying for it in the contract.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Thu 13 Jan 2011, 12:01, Reply)

Of course I don't :)
The iPhone is a good phone. Other good phones include most HTC's, and SE make some decent ones too. Ultimately, you get the phone that fits what you want, and for a lot of people the iPhone combines specs with the usability they need.
I love my iPhone, and I like a lot of Apple products, but I'm no fanboy for sure.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Thu 13 Jan 2011, 12:05, Reply)

Now you think I'm slagging off Apple things

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Thu 13 Jan 2011, 12:09, Reply)

Calm down, calm down
*does calm down scouser voice*
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Thu 13 Jan 2011, 12:05, Reply)

it's him! ^
he thinks that by daring to say that a contract i-phone actually cost more than £40 that I'm slagging it off. Or something.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Thu 13 Jan 2011, 12:16, Reply)

that was in context ya numpty!

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Thu 13 Jan 2011, 11:59, Reply)

second newflash: i am beyond shit with technology
i didn't even know the iphone could do it until my friends started forwarding texts to me. also i managed to move all the icons around when twatted on tue night, and have no idea how it happened or how to move them back, so i can't find anything :(
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 13 Jan 2011, 11:44, Reply)

It's not the functionality
is the user-friendliness of Apple stuff that does it.

I agree about the adverstising, entirely. Apple piss me off. Yet I still have an iPhone, a macbook and I run my home AV stuff on a mac mini. Nothing else comes close for the sheer function-to-usability-to lack of effort ratios. I could make PCs do what I needed but it would require effort, and the time taken is worth more to me then the extra cost of Apple stuff.

Still don't get the iPad, mind you.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 13 Jan 2011, 11:47, Reply)

About the only thing I could use
is an Apple TV box, whatever they're called. I've got so many old PC bits at home though, so why would I buy something specialised for something I can build for free?
( Kroney, Thu 13 Jan 2011, 11:49, Reply)

because you already know about computer stuff
or can be bothered to learn? I don't, and I can't be arsed, and I have better things to do with my time. So, mac mini with an iRed into an AV amp also connected to my TV, HD box, DVD player and xbox. Run the whole thing from my iPod touch as a universal remote control. Piece of piss.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 13 Jan 2011, 11:53, Reply)

Fair enough, really.

( Kroney, Thu 13 Jan 2011, 11:55, Reply)

The problem is
people think if you have Apple stuff you're automatically some kind of fucking Apple fanboy and start going on about Apple shit and they I have to kill them and it takes ages to get the blood out of my jeans.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 13 Jan 2011, 12:00, Reply)

I just have issues with the way they present themselves.
It's like anything else, you buy what does the job best for your needs. If that's Apple, fine, at least you've researched it.

Anybody who buys anything simply because a particular company makes it, craps on about how great it is and cheers at release parties when said company reveals four year old tech in a pretty dress is a vacuous twat, whatever company they may be worshipping.
( Kroney, Thu 13 Jan 2011, 12:05, Reply)

I agree here wholeheartedly
But anti-apple fanboyism is just as tedious as apple fanboyism.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Thu 13 Jan 2011, 12:09, Reply)

totally.
But because I own things doesn't mean I worship at their altar, and doesn't mean I wish to be engaged in conversation about the release date of OS XXXIV Scottish Wildcat by a complete stranger just because I have two products in front of me with the same logo.

leave me alone and I'll leave them alone.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 13 Jan 2011, 12:14, Reply)

I agree here
I specialise in Mac forensics, so keep up to date with all things Apple, but I can't stand the rabid Apple fanboys you get in the Apple store.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Thu 13 Jan 2011, 12:17, Reply)

Indeed. I like PCs because they can do anything you want, if you know how.
Apples always have a limit.

But sometimes, in an extension of the old "PCs = toolbox" metaphor, all you need is a screwdriver.
( Kroney, Thu 13 Jan 2011, 12:15, Reply)

My desktop/gaming machine will always be Windows based
My laptop will always be Apple.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Thu 13 Jan 2011, 12:18, Reply)

Again, fair enough, really.

( Kroney, Thu 13 Jan 2011, 12:25, Reply)

haha
I want the next Apple ad to be in the style of the ipod ads but with people sat on the sofa drinking beer

"Can't be assed to move? Get some apple stuff! It's well easy like*!"

*apple now use Geordies to sell their stuff
( TGB checking Off Topic is still shit at, Thu 13 Jan 2011, 11:50, Reply)

they actually make pink ipads now
this might tip me into getting one.

they just look so pretty. there are only 2 stores at westfield that have queues to get in, and one is apple. the other is hollister, but that's blatantly because of the models in underwear who hang around the entrance.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 13 Jan 2011, 11:56, Reply)

There are cheaper pink A4 sized things, you know?
Just get a bit of pink cardboard and leave it on the coffee table with an apple sticker on it. Be about as much use.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 13 Jan 2011, 12:02, Reply)

Why would you want an iPad?
I know two people with them, both of them feel cheated. They admit they are little more than a vanity purchase.

You can't run any Div X or Flash applications on them.
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Thu 13 Jan 2011, 12:04, Reply)

I know three people with them who love them
And use them daily. They don't need DivX or Flash, because they can view video in other formats/codecs.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Thu 13 Jan 2011, 12:10, Reply)

I've been looking at Android tablets for a while
but I don't have wifi at home so a portable DVD player would probably be cheaper and as much use.
( The Light in Chains don't touch the Pope's boner, Thu 13 Jan 2011, 12:19, Reply)

Does the Samsung tablet run Android?

( Kroney, Thu 13 Jan 2011, 12:25, Reply)

Windows 7 innit?
Edit: oops no, the Samsung Galaxy tablet in the O2 shop is Android 2.2.
( The Light in Chains don't touch the Pope's boner, Thu 13 Jan 2011, 12:30, Reply)

Interesting. I may look into that.
I'm stuck with a Maemo phone until spring 2012 and I want to play Angry Birds =(
( Kroney, Thu 13 Jan 2011, 12:35, Reply)

I've got angry birds on my Palm Pre
I'm on O2 so I might ask them about putting the tablet on my same contract (which has unlimited data). Then I can just switch between tablet and phone whichever is best at the time.

I suspect they won't go for it, but it might be worth trying.
( The Light in Chains don't touch the Pope's boner, Thu 13 Jan 2011, 12:49, Reply)

they're too heavy
that's my main beef with them
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 13 Jan 2011, 12:31, Reply)