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(, Sun 1 Apr 2001, 1:00)
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I would certainly agree with point b
I first assumed that you weren't even there when I read it, given your ex's penchant for irrationality.

Everyone else seems to think otherwise though.

I slept fucking badly again last night. This secondment has somehow caused my insomnia to get much fucking worse.
(, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 9:13, 3 replies, latest was 15 years ago)
I too am Capt Insomnia at the moment
It is getting rather tedious and I look like a corpse now
(, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 9:16, Reply)
it's shit
if there were some reason for not being able to get to sleep or waking up many times during the night and then not being able to get to sleep then perhaps it wouldn't be so bad.

don't you hate it when you say to someone that you barely slept and they go "really? I slept like a log"
(, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 9:20, Reply)
Yes, yes I do
My missus sleeps the sleep of the dead each night, then wakes up complaining she is tired. This does not amuse me at all as I've normally been awake for half the night listening to her sleeping soundly....
(, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 9:26, Reply)
fortunately my mrs is sympathetic

(, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 9:29, Reply)
Can I borrow her?

(, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 9:30, Reply)
I'm away Monday and Tuesday nights
so you could probably borrow her then, as long as you return her in good condition
(, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 9:32, Reply)
deal

(, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 9:34, Reply)
I may be able to help, but you won't like it
Ms Foxtrot was off work with stress a while back and wasn't sleeping at all well for a good long time. She started going to a meditation class once a week and it really seemed to help level her out. She's much more inclined towards all that hippy bobbins than I am anyway but the breathing exercises she does at night definitely help her with getting a decent amount of sleep. She hasn't gone to this class for the last couple of weeks and her sleep's been a bit erratic since.

So you might find meditation class helps with your sleep issues. It all depends whether you want to sit in a room with a bunch of New Age mung-bean munchers for an hour. You've got the beard for it.
(, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 9:20, Reply)
thanks for the suggestion
I have considered pretty much everything over the years.

Trouble is, I'm not stressed. I'm not worried about anything, I can be completely relaxed, blank mind, and just not be able to sleep.
(, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 9:22, Reply)
Get a large man to punch you in the face and knock you unconscious
Make sure your bed is behind you to break your fall
(, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 9:25, Reply)
that is quite a radical approach
I would have to ensure that I remained unconcious all night though, otherwise no real improvement, with some significant drawbacks
(, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 9:26, Reply)
Your beard would just soften the blow

(, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 9:28, Reply)
Desperate times call for desperate measures

(, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 9:29, Reply)
Just invite Chompy out for a drink with a hot colleague of yours
Then drink her drinks.
(, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 9:50, Reply)
I don't have any while on secondment
I see what you did there though.
(, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 9:56, Reply)
Just trying to help

(, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 9:58, Reply)
does that stuff make you pass out
or just not remember stuff?
(, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 10:02, Reply)
I think it depends on what's used
But as far as I'm aware, it makes you feel very drunk and eventually pass out.
(, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 10:03, Reply)
Now, I'm the person here most likely to suggest
that new-age arseholes go fuck themselves with the nearest wind-chime, and even I don't see why this won't work - insomnia is a mental rather than a physcial issue so meditation might well help.

Of course, what he really needs to do is lay off the weed, but I know he'll tell me to do one, and rightly so ;)
(, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 9:58, Reply)
I had the insomnia before the weed smoking
over the years it probably hasn't helped sure, but stopping even for extended periods hasn't helped either.

at the moment when weighing the things against each other, continuing to smoke weed beats the possibility that my insomnia might go away.

You say it is a mental issue, which I would normally agree with, but I cannot find any reason why I should be experiencing it. It happens when I am at my most relaxed and stress free equally as often as when I am not. Exercising or not doesn't seem to make any difference either.
(, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 10:07, Reply)
just because it's mental doesn't mean it's got an obvious cause.
I don't sleep on Sunday nights at all, yet I really enjoy my job.
(, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 10:09, Reply)
fair enough
the brain is a strange thing.

as much as I may complain about not sleeping, it's only 4 or 5 nights over a couple of weeks at most at the moment, which is easily handled, and I'm sure once my secondment is over things will improve
(, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 10:14, Reply)
It means you're gay.

(, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 10:16, Reply)
the voice of experience

(, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 10:21, Reply)
Have you tried exercise then a hot bath just before bed?
Alternatively....wank
(, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 9:22, Reply)
tried all of that

(, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 9:22, Reply)
I thought you started having a few beers; a decent night's sleep justifying the slight hangover?

(, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 9:26, Reply)
I did on monday night
still woke up at 5 then 6

the trouble is, I am also trying to lose weight and chugging a couple of beers undoes some of the good work from my swimming regime so I am a bit loathe to do it every night I am up here.

Less of a problem at home because I can just get caned.
(, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 9:28, Reply)
Drink spirits?

(, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 9:31, Reply)
I am considering it
When at uni and I couldn't sleep and wasn't smoking I used to take valerian tincture which worked quite well.

Based on last night's performance it no longer works for me.
(, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 9:33, Reply)
Can you not smoke a fatty-boom-batty on secondment?

(, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 9:34, Reply)
I probably could, but that would be a very last resort really
not sure how the people I am staying with would take it were they to observe me doing so, and wouldn't particularly like to explain to my company why I need to find alternative accommodation should the worst happen.

I'm also trying to cut down a bit, during the week anyway and this seemed like a good opportunity.

The good thing is I'm not desperate for a reefer.
(, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 9:41, Reply)
long term booze doesn't help.
as in, your insomina will adjust. unless you get slaughtered, and then you sleep but it's deep sleep not light sleep so you don't actually get any mental rest.
(, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 9:59, Reply)
that's the trouble
it's adjusted to everything I've tried about from rocking the ganj.
(, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 10:01, Reply)
hate to say it but you probably need to try a prolonged period entirely off the weed.
like, 6 months or so. Doesn't matter what effect the drug has - just because it's a downer doesn't mean it can't cause insomnia. Humans aren't adapted to process THC well, and you pick up all kinds of odd dependency effects from any drug

Course, it's totally up to you whether it's worth it - it might not be that at all - but if you definitely aren't stressed, that's what a GP is going to tell you.
(, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 10:08, Reply)
you are probably right
I have been off it for months at a time before with no discernable improvement in how often I can't sleep.

and I'm sure that is what a GP would tell me. At the moment though it's not enough of an issue to take to the doc, just happen to be going through a bad period at the moment.
(, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 10:12, Reply)
if you've definitely tried it
(as in being off it) then consider other things first, but it probably needs a long time - like 6 months plus - with dope to be sure, because like I said we don't really process THC well. That's part of why it's a good drug.

I'm sure that secondment stuff really doesn't help - some people just can't sleep in a different environment too.
(, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 10:15, Reply)
I think the longest I've been off was about 6 months
but it was over my finals, when I was breaking up with my ex and then trying to get a job. Not conducive to good sleep.

I'm a really light sleeper which doesn't help. Basically any light or sound will stop me sleeping, so am usually equipped with mask and earplugs.
(, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 10:19, Reply)

ear butt

Sorry, but that was just begging for it.
(, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 10:24, Reply)
the thread for that stuff is at the bottom of the page

(, Wed 26 Jan 2011, 10:29, Reply)

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