My mind is boggled.
Rape, abortion = OK.

Condoms = bad.

Does not compute.
(BelladonnaAnodyne Melissa's gonna wet herself, I swear..., Fri 25 Feb 2011, 11:22, 4 replies, latest was 15 years ago)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0kJHQpvgB8
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Fri 25 Feb 2011, 11:23, Reply)

Every sperm is sacred, every sperm is great
except for the ones priests chuck up nuns, because they're not supposed to be boning.
( Kroney, Fri 25 Feb 2011, 11:24, Reply)

it's ok
it's in Africa, so celibacy means you don't get married, but are free to rape whomever you want, particularly nuns or young girls.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 25 Feb 2011, 11:25, Reply)

Or babies
because that cures you of AIDS.
( Kroney, Fri 25 Feb 2011, 11:26, Reply)

You can commit a mortal sin to cover up, erm, a mortal sin.
Which bit aren't you getting, heathen!
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Fri 25 Feb 2011, 11:25, Reply)

ah, the old "two wrongs make a right" defence
thank God for that
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 25 Feb 2011, 11:26, Reply)

It really is simple.
See also 'putting your daughter in the loony bin because boys fancy her'.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Fri 25 Feb 2011, 11:28, Reply)

That's stupid,
they're not saying any of it is ok, or not sinful.
(PsychoChomp, Fri 25 Feb 2011, 11:30, Reply)

the people doing it clearly don't think there's anything wrong with it

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 25 Feb 2011, 11:31, Reply)

This ^

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Fri 25 Feb 2011, 11:32, Reply)

Well that's all very dependant on the person
I don't think you can put it down to ignorance it's deliberate systematic abuse, the abuser will either justify it to themselves and feel no guilt, or feel a lot of guilt but not be able to stop.
(PsychoChomp, Fri 25 Feb 2011, 11:35, Reply)

it's mainly the hypocricy that makes me froth at the brain about it
that it happens and yet they still preach catholic morals etc.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Fri 25 Feb 2011, 11:38, Reply)

Well, just as the Met was once found to be 'institutionally racist',
couldn't certain branches of the Catholic Church be 'institutionally rapey and kid-molestery'?
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Fri 25 Feb 2011, 11:38, Reply)

Err excuse me?
'...a vicar in one African diocese had talked "quite openly" about sex, saying that "celibacy in the African context means a priest does not get married, but does not mean he does not have children."'

He seems to think it's perfectly ok. The whole thing is fucking disgusting, anybody who goes round fucking nuns or pre-teens or babies so as not to get HIV deserves to have their cock ripped off quite frankly, and acid poured in the hole.
(berk, Fri 25 Feb 2011, 11:33, Reply)

That doesn't necessarily mean non consensual sex though does it.
And yes that is disgusting but thinking that the church is pro rape is a massive leap from what's actually in this article.
(PsychoChomp, Fri 25 Feb 2011, 11:37, Reply)

A blind eye has been turned to these things for years by the Catholic Church
Cardinal Ratzinger hmself ignored pleas to deal with abuse. So it does make you wonder what the unofficial concensus might be.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Fri 25 Feb 2011, 11:42, Reply)

Did you even read the article?
I'm not saying the church is pro rape, per se. I'm saying in areas that this is happening, the local priests obviously think it's ok to force nuns to have sex with them. So yes, I guess in some of those cases the nun is consenting, in return for favours such as help with studies or placements etc, but the very fact that Catholic fucking priests think this is an okay thing to do is repulsive.
(berk, Fri 25 Feb 2011, 11:47, Reply)

This is how so many arguments start on here
Bella said "Rape, abortion = OK."
I said, don't be stupid
You spoke to me like it was the continuation of that conversation but looks like you wanted to start a seperate conversation.

I'm not dissagreeing with anything apart from what bella said at first.
(PsychoChomp, Fri 25 Feb 2011, 11:54, Reply)

Fair enough
in that case I apologise.
(berk, Fri 25 Feb 2011, 12:00, Reply)

...
you're not allowed to apologise online, I'm confused.
(PsychoChomp, Fri 25 Feb 2011, 12:07, Reply)

what is "the African context" though
does this tie in with the point about women in third world countries being more conditioned to subservience to men?

this is perhaps even more at the heart of the problem, and you don't need to be catholic to do it either... burkha anybody? or how about having your thumbs cut off for wearing nail varnish?? or maybe a nice rape followed by a cheerful stoning for daring to have sex outside marriage...
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 25 Feb 2011, 11:41, Reply)

Yes people use Allah as an excuse too.
I think what we've learnt here today is that globally-marketed gods make you rapey.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Fri 25 Feb 2011, 11:44, Reply)

or people will use any excuse
to do what the fuck they like
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Fri 25 Feb 2011, 11:48, Reply)

Sorry, I just found God, I'm off out for a bit...

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Fri 25 Feb 2011, 11:49, Reply)

And that a higher-than-expected number of African priests have a penguin fetish.

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Fri 25 Feb 2011, 11:50, Reply)

Ha!

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Fri 25 Feb 2011, 11:54, Reply)

or that men simply can't keep it in their trousers
find me an example of a NUN raping or molesting children or priests...
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 25 Feb 2011, 11:51, Reply)

Oh there have been plenty of nuns who molested children, unfortunately.
Obviously, proportionately far less than men, so they're still more rapey than us.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Fri 25 Feb 2011, 11:53, Reply)

child abuse i have heard of
but not in a sexual context. the nuns at my primary school (i was only there for a year) were all far too old and papery to molest anyone!
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 25 Feb 2011, 11:55, Reply)

I don't know if any were public like the priest cases
but I know people who were scared of nuns for more than just violence.
I must add, I'm not talking about myself!
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Fri 25 Feb 2011, 11:57, Reply)

not having sex is an unnatural way to be
it is not surprising that it drives these people a bit insane
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 25 Feb 2011, 11:59, Reply)

Why don't they just let them have relationships?
It seems to be that a shagging clergyman is a happy clergyman, so why make them all bitter and tortured and repressed, when maybe if they'd been able to get their rocks off they'd have been pillars of the community. My Nana says this all the time, because we had a boss priest but he ended up leaving to marry a nun. Then we lost a good community leader and the nanas were sad.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Fri 25 Feb 2011, 12:04, Reply)