Personal opinion and all that
But what qualities do you believe video games lack that prohibit them from being considered art?
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Thu 10 Mar 2011, 9:59, 1 reply, 15 years ago)

They're generally simplistically plotted
in terms of motive and possible divergent courses. The graphics don't really impress me enough to divert attention. The main problem is they're not over-all good enough. They can have great story perhaps, or great graphics, but to qualify as art they have to be a coherent whole
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Thu 10 Mar 2011, 10:03, Reply)

Given some of the shit that qualifies as "art" these days
that's a crap argument.
(Bazongaloid, Thu 10 Mar 2011, 10:04, Reply)

In reply to both you and Labs
you're qualifying as art then, anything that the author of it wants to claim is art?
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Thu 10 Mar 2011, 10:07, Reply)

Surely it's the audience that accepts it as art?

( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Thu 10 Mar 2011, 10:17, Reply)

Which is why
it might be art to some people, but I haven't seen an example that qualifies by my definition yet
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Thu 10 Mar 2011, 10:28, Reply)

I accept that
But at least it seems that you're open to the possibility of games being considered as art.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Thu 10 Mar 2011, 10:39, Reply)

Of course
the possibility exists.
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Thu 10 Mar 2011, 10:43, Reply)

As Chompy says below
You just haven't played the right games. You don't need to have amazing, lifelike graphics, a good number of modern art stuff frankly looks like a 5 year old ate too many crayons and sharted over a canvas.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Thu 10 Mar 2011, 10:05, Reply)

if you (as in one, not as in you labia majora!) have a demanding job and a good social life
and go to the gym or otherwise exercise, when do you find time to play these things? i am not being sarky, i am genuinely interested!
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 10 Mar 2011, 10:13, Reply)

If you work 9 til 5:30
Spend an hour or so at the gym, and don't spend every evening or whole weekend out with people, then there's still plenty of time to play games.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Thu 10 Mar 2011, 10:16, Reply)

9-5.30?
christ, i wish.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 10 Mar 2011, 10:19, Reply)

Quite a lot of people manage that just fine
I get all my work done within my contracted 37.5 hours a week, leaving my evenings and weekends for socialising or relaxing on my own, both of which can involve games, or not, depending on my mood.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Thu 10 Mar 2011, 10:21, Reply)

i'm expected to hit 35 hours chargeable and 15 hours non-chargeable a week
and that's just the bits you can actually record :(
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 10 Mar 2011, 10:25, Reply)

And that's your choice, and for that you are financially rewarded
but most people are not solicitors (thank god) and most people think that having a job should enable you to have the life you want, rather than your job being your life.
(Bazongaloid, Thu 10 Mar 2011, 10:28, Reply)

I'd say the recent Fallout games would fall under this then
I've not played New Vegas, but 3 was superb, and the graphics and sandbox environment are absolutely fantastic.
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Thu 10 Mar 2011, 10:06, Reply)

I would say the majority of games now have better graphics than most Manga films.
RPG's have trailed the way in motive and divergent courses, then since GTA 3 the third person sandbox games have got it down to an art.
(PsychoChomp, Thu 10 Mar 2011, 10:09, Reply)

I disagree, books and films can get completely dwarfed by the content that is in some video games.
Where as a film can have two hours, a book a week, video games can have months of content. In terms of lines in scripts, there are far more lines, it's not unusual for a video game to have 150k lines + of spoken or written script.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 10 Mar 2011, 10:36, Reply)