Yeah, the rugby lads smashing pint glasses all over the campus on Friday were keeping it to themselves
and their t-shirts saying "smashing pussies" were keeping it to themselves.
Why you think they're any different from football wankers is bizarre. Manners are manners. bar staff deserve not to be wading in piss or blood just as much as some granny getting her shopping.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Mon 21 Mar 2011, 15:07, 2 replies, latest was 15 years ago)

Short answer
hang around twickenham after an international, 80,000 people all getting on and making their way home.

Hang around Fulham Broadway after a Chelsea game and you better get ready for a whole world of shit, and there are half as many of them.
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 21 Mar 2011, 15:09, Reply)

Short answer
You haven't seen what I've seen and I haven't seen what you've seen.
But I feel affinity with neither rugby fellas or football fellas (and maybe we're getting confused over spectators and participants as well) but I'm judging objectively.
They are all tits when they're in a group and pissed up.
Or maybe you think pissing all over a pub table is mere japery, but punching your mate in the face is a step beyond.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Mon 21 Mar 2011, 15:13, Reply)

no, they are all cuntish behaviour
but in a list of "most cuntish" pissing on a table or punching your mate are all well, well below punching a random member of the public. That was the disction I was getting at.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Mon 21 Mar 2011, 15:16, Reply)

Fair enough, I suppose i was aiming more at supporters
Rugby players, particularly students can be pretty ferral when they're drunk that is very true.
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 21 Mar 2011, 15:25, Reply)

well, the problem you've got there is that they are students and rugby players
first and foremost. And therefore have a mental age of 3. Most rugby players do not behave like that in public.

And they are different from football fans because, in general, they do not start fights with either opposition fans or members of the public because rugby doesn't have the ingrained life or death tribal alliances that football has.

And I didn't say it wasn't bad manners, just that drunken behaviour of that sort is hardly the preserve of rubgy players. I was merely pointing out that a load of drunken cunts vomiting everywhere is a fuck sight less of a problem for me than a load of psychotic cunts punching and stabbing random members of the public because "they look like they support X team"
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Mon 21 Mar 2011, 15:13, Reply)

Football fans, in general, don't do that either. And I'm sure all rugby players dont piss all over the pub.
But I don't think any one group is 'better' behaved.
In my experience, I have witnessed both groups being wankers. I live somewhere that has two football teams, and it's not divided geographically or by religion, so that kind of thing doesn't happen where I live, but I know it does elsewhere. I just think anyone's capable of being wankers especially when they're buoyed up by booze and their sport. I wouldn't defend either group, even though the majority are just normal people with a season ticket and a scarf.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Mon 21 Mar 2011, 15:22, Reply)

I've spent a fair amount of time living in East and South London
and now Edinburgh, and spent plenty of time in South Wales . I can categorically state that football fans do, in general, absolutely do that. All the time. Being caught in the middle of a a few hundred Cardiff and Swansea fans going at it is not an experience that I wish to repeat. Or being anywhere near Millwall. Or being on a train in Southern Germany when 1860 fans stormed it to get at Bayern fans. Or running battles in Rome after a Roma/Lazio game. Or anywhere I've been in Eastern Europe, really.

So, yeah, I agree that I won't condone either but in my experience football generates a whole heap higher level of cunt. I know your experince differs of course, I'm just saying why my feelings about it are so strong.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Mon 21 Mar 2011, 15:42, Reply)