You were well harsh
And if those were really your reasons, you didn't make them very clear.
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Tue 10 May 2011, 14:56, 1 reply, 15 years ago)

she needs to grow up
she sits on here whining about how she can't get a job in law because of the system when she's sooooo bright and sooo talented and soooo academic... dude, if she had a braincell and really wanted to be a lawyer, she could have gazzed me. i could have got her a hefty leg-up with work experience in the city or manchester, or checked her cv, or anything.

but no. she'd rather whine about it ONLINE and how only the people who know people get anywhere in life. then she didn't use the lead she had. zero initiative = lousy lawyer, in my experience. so she deserved to be challenged. also her high-handed manner put my back right up. all fart and no poo.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Tue 10 May 2011, 15:00, Reply)

We told a guy once to use his initiative.
He asked us how to do that. He didn't last.
( Kroney, Tue 10 May 2011, 15:02, Reply)

Did you make that apparent to her, though?
It's no good justifying yourself after the fact. She was about as likely to gaz you asking for a favour as I am to pay Chompy a compliment on his erudite wit based on your attitude towards her. Your arguments may have been more well-founded than they appeared at the time but they came across as little more than vicious sniping.
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Tue 10 May 2011, 15:04, Reply)

Swipeys arguments have never been well founded.

(Bazongaloid, Tue 10 May 2011, 15:04, Reply)

i'm not trying to justify myself though
i'm saying she's irritating. therefore she irritated me. therefore i was rude to her.

the rest is just detail.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Tue 10 May 2011, 15:08, Reply)

That's fine, but you didn't write that above
you tried to justify the fact that she was singled out for far harsher treatment that other people when in fact it was just you taking a dislike to her.
(Bazongaloid, Tue 10 May 2011, 15:10, Reply)

they are 2 different things though
1 is my comments to her, aka my "vicious sniping" (i've never been called vicious before, i'm perversely quite pleased). 2 is my opinion of her. 1 does not necessarily reflect 2, and vice versa.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Tue 10 May 2011, 15:13, Reply)

That makes no sense Swipey
and as a lawyer you should be ashamed. There reason you were nasty to her, and the reason you consider it justified to be nasty to her was because you didn't like her plain and simple, but when called out you just attempted to justify that behaviour by pointing out character flaws, which whilst probably true, still had nothing to do with your reasons behind bullying her.
(Bazongaloid, Tue 10 May 2011, 15:17, Reply)

i don't see why you think i need it to be justified
i have explained why i disliked her to DF as he queried it. but that's not justification.

it's a public board, i'll post what i like!
( rachelswipe with a fork, Tue 10 May 2011, 15:21, Reply)

The reason I think you need to justify it
is the fact that you did try and justify it. If from the very start you had just said, I find her annoying and therefore I'm rude to her, then fine. That's pretty much the whole ethos of b3ta, but you didn't.
(Bazongaloid, Tue 10 May 2011, 15:22, Reply)

nobody asked!
it wasn't even that thought out. i read her stuff, thought "what a load of arseshit", and replied.

if DF is now going to ask me why, them's the reasons, but basically if you post something annoying and irritating (and i have quite a few gazzes from people saying "omg she is such a tit"), people will get annoyed and irritated. there's probably also hundreds of other reasons i forget now - might have been having a bad day, or too hot in the office, or scratchy underwear - none of it's relevant.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Tue 10 May 2011, 15:25, Reply)

You know "the lurkers support me in email"
has been sung to the tune of "My Bonny Lies Over the Ocean" for a good 20 years or so, right?
( The Light in Chains don't touch the Pope's boner, Tue 10 May 2011, 15:43, Reply)

Trolling someone off the board because they annoy you is most unbecoming
Chompy annoys the fuck out of me but I don't persecute him because I appreciate it's just difference of opinion.
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Tue 10 May 2011, 15:12, Reply)

ha, come on
there is no way that bella left because of me, so you can't say i "trolled her off the board". lots of people were rude to her.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Tue 10 May 2011, 15:15, Reply)

Yes they were, as I mentioned above
But you were chief perpetrator and have claimed in this very thread that part of the reason why you did it was "because we wanted her to stop talking". I just want you to take responsibility for your actions.
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Tue 10 May 2011, 15:21, Reply)

oh hardly!
i think we only had 2 or 3 exchanges.

but i am quite happy to admit i was rude to her. and about her. she can't expect to have strong opinions without exciting an equally strong reaction, and she was being deliberately provocative by saying things like 'woohoo, off to smash up london" - therefore she deserved to be provoked.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Tue 10 May 2011, 15:29, Reply)

Your first point is absolute bollocks
The way you went after her was perhaps more starkly obvious because, as you say, you don't troll people all the time like Rory does, but you were still more guilty of it than anyone else. You're quite right that Bella was provocative but you didn't need to go after her on a personal level. You could have, I dunno, suggested that her politics was deliberately provocative and asked her motivation, rather than criticising her appearance and deliberately attempting to rile her
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Tue 10 May 2011, 15:42, Reply)