I once went to a photography exhibition of woman who had been
burned, fire or acid, and the stories behind their disfigurement. It was heartbreaking, one girl's father poured acid all over her when she was 5 to punish his wife for being in public with another man.

She had to spend her life in pain, blind, disfigured, as an outcast and emotionally ruined because the person in her life, who was supposed to protect her, no matter what, committed a horrific crime against her.

I can't say that prison feels like a strong enough punishment.
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 18 May 2011, 10:17, 3 replies, latest was 15 years ago)

In Jamaica women do it to each other with alarming regularity.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 18 May 2011, 10:17, Reply)

bitches be crazy

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 18 May 2011, 10:19, Reply)

This is true the world over

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 18 May 2011, 10:21, Reply)

BITCHEZ AIN'T $HIT

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 18 May 2011, 10:31, Reply)

Do you have kids Apey?
If anyone hurt my kids I'd kick the fuck out of them until my feet broke. Then I'd punch them
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 18 May 2011, 10:18, Reply)

I've got one on the way
and I already feel incredibly protective
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 18 May 2011, 10:18, Reply)

Good lad

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 18 May 2011, 10:18, Reply)

It's an odd sort of thing
I never had any real inclining for wanting kids now and i never understood, how people loved something that wasn't yet born and why miscarriages are so emotionally destructive. Now however my attitude has completely changed, i don't think you can properly understand until you go through it, i certainly know I couldn't.
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 18 May 2011, 10:21, Reply)

As an inherently selfish person I have been amazed at the strength of my feelings toward my child
I've never experienced such genuinely strong emotions ever - it's way beyond being in love with someone.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 18 May 2011, 10:22, Reply)

Like this big soft git says^

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 18 May 2011, 10:24, Reply)

Just wait until the little bugger is born.
I wasn't prepared for the shift in attitude my brain got as soon as she slithered into the world.
( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Wed 18 May 2011, 10:37, Reply)

I know that, the inital emotional response is always going to be "give them a taste of their own medecine"
But the point is, as a society, I don't feel it's ever acceptable for the state to sanction any kind of capital punisment, be it public beatings, chopping off of hands, or the death penalty.

And I'm sure if I were in the position of being the relative of a victim I would be furious, but I would like to think that I could look at the bigger picture.
(Bazongaloid, Wed 18 May 2011, 10:22, Reply)

I do generally agree that capital punishment is counter productive on many levels
corporal punishment makes more sense though, a quick whipping or 6 months in jail? Saves time and money and jail cells.

The acid thing particularly irks me, because it is so hateful.
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 18 May 2011, 10:24, Reply)

You can't argue that it's okay to whip someone
if you also argue it's not okay to kill them. You either justify to yourself that all forms of corporal and capital punishment is acceptable, in which case you would find it very difficult not to justify the use of torture, or you argue that none of it is okay.

The big question is do you view our justice system as a way to punish people who do things wrong, or as a way to try and rehabilitate them to prevent them doing the wrong things again? Obviously there are always cases on the margins that make people scream and get the tabloids frothing, but that's why courts are supposed to be dispassionate. Hard cases do not make good laws.
(Bazongaloid, Wed 18 May 2011, 10:28, Reply)

The law should punish and rehabilitate

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 18 May 2011, 10:31, Reply)

error
the law should first be a deterrent
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 18 May 2011, 10:41, Reply)

i meant once you've been convicted
i think half of a person sentance should be punishment and the second half rhabilitaion and providing a proper exit stragetgy into the community
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 18 May 2011, 10:42, Reply)

You talk so much sense on occasion Al
I'm going to click this, in fact
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 18 May 2011, 10:33, Reply)

But then you're no better than the criminals you are punishing.
I see both sides of the argument but I don't think you can ever justify beating people.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 18 May 2011, 10:29, Reply)

it costs a lot of taxes to keep them in prison though......
..... think how many old-folks' homes or schools you could build for all the thousands of pounds a week it costs to keep a prisoner......... it's only a few quid for a syringe.....

*opens popcorn*
( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 18 May 2011, 10:48, Reply)