One thing I cannot believe we don't do is make prisoners work when they're inside.
I cannot see a downside to their paying off some of their incarceration bill through work - and at the same time helping their self-esteem/value through productive activity.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 18 May 2011, 10:44, 4 replies, latest was 15 years ago)

Yep

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 18 May 2011, 10:46, Reply)

I think it should be like a boot camp
up at dawn, run and excercise, breakfast, studying, cleaning, menial work, shower rape and to bed at dusk.

No TVs, no luxuries, no vote.
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 18 May 2011, 10:46, Reply)

shower rape is a luxury for some

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 18 May 2011, 10:47, Reply)

HMP Norwich lols

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 18 May 2011, 10:48, Reply)

Haha

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 18 May 2011, 10:52, Reply)

That'll only increase the conviction rate
If shower rape becomes a statutory right of every inmate they'll have to incarcerate a sibling with every successful prosecution.
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 18 May 2011, 10:55, Reply)

Turnip stealing convictions in East Anglia have increased 850%

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 18 May 2011, 10:56, Reply)

Someone I know went away for manslaughter
and he told me it was 'fookin' brilliant' in Strangeways - 'it's being on the dole but you don't have to get up to sign on'. They made booze out of jam and every Friday night they all took Es and listened to pirate radio.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 18 May 2011, 10:57, Reply)

....and this is why we need more prisons for fucking idiots like that

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 18 May 2011, 10:58, Reply)

And for the prison experience to not be so fucking pleasant.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 18 May 2011, 11:00, Reply)

jam beer sounds quite nice though, eh?

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 18 May 2011, 11:05, Reply)

Jamstel?
sorry
( Bill Clay a.k.a. Claudio, Wed 18 May 2011, 11:09, Reply)

click

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 18 May 2011, 11:16, Reply)

The american system has basically become a modern form of slavery.
And there have been arguments made that some states "tough on crime" laws have been heavily influenced by the people who directly benifit from a large prison population.
That's why you can get 15 years for possesion.
(PsychoChomp, Wed 18 May 2011, 10:47, Reply)

you do serious time for possession
because america (well, some states) have a seriously fucked up attitude to drugs.

There are at least 3 or 4 states where the average 3rd strike jail sentence for dope possession is higher than the average for rape or murder.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 18 May 2011, 10:52, Reply)

Although I kindda agree, there is quite a lot to consider; do they pay tax on the work? do they get any sort of profit for their work?
Will there be a backlash from consumers of the company involved in regards to using a company that'll essenchally employ a criminal who still hasn't finished paying for his crimes?
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 18 May 2011, 10:47, Reply)

This implies that companies have a conscience
If they thought they could get cheap labour they would jump at the chance. No tax to pay
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 18 May 2011, 10:48, Reply)

A lot of companies have consciences, esspecially if it could potentially harm their profits.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 18 May 2011, 10:50, Reply)

ONLY if it could harm their profits

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 18 May 2011, 10:51, Reply)

No, that's not true, companies are owned by such a varied array of people that you can't generalise like that.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 18 May 2011, 10:54, Reply)

I mean the kind of companies that would employ prisoners

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 18 May 2011, 10:57, Reply)

they could make stuff for teh government
like pot hole fillers
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 18 May 2011, 10:49, Reply)

We could just grind them up to fill the pot-holes
Two birds with one guilty stone
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 18 May 2011, 10:50, Reply)