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Rape should equal life in jail

(, Wed 18 May 2011, 10:50, 3 replies, latest was 15 years ago)
I think convicts should have the chance to gamble their sentence.
Put them in a room with, say 5 people, all of them - bar one - have some god-awful STI. The rapist then has to fuck one of them bareback for a month.

If they don't get ill, they get to do half their sentence. But here is the twist. They don't find out if they are ill until they are due to have their parole heard/until their cock falls off.

That'll be agony for 'em.

(I admit I haven't give this due thought)
(, Wed 18 May 2011, 11:01, Reply)
whatever the circumstances?
What if two really pissed people meet in a bar, flirt a bit, go somewhere, the woman is in no fit state to say no but definitely doesn't want sex and the bloke is in no fit state to ask properly but thinks she does? It's still rape. But you can't (realistially anyway) argue the man solely has the moral responsibility to stay sober enough to get signed permission any more than you could get away with arguing that the woman solely must stay sober enough to be clear about saying no.

bit of a devil's advocate line here, of course, I wouldn't condone the actions of the bloke above in any way, I know, but I still think there are "degrees of severity" like any other crime.
(, Wed 18 May 2011, 11:06, Reply)
but how many cases actually fit this?

(, Wed 18 May 2011, 11:13, Reply)
These are the cases that people are arguing about changing the laws for
because women in that situation are making a complaint but because there is no realistic chance of prosecution they aren't going to court.
(, Wed 18 May 2011, 11:15, Reply)
If you don't pay a prostitute, does that constitute as rape?
I don't mean that in a bad way, I was just wondering.
(, Wed 18 May 2011, 11:17, Reply)
I have no idea
I would have thought most would demand the money up front.
(, Wed 18 May 2011, 11:19, Reply)
it's fraud, mate
or theft.

just in case anyone actually takes me seriously this was a joke.
(, Wed 18 May 2011, 11:19, Reply)
It only takes one case for there to need to be a range of sentences.
As a lawyer you should know that. Otherwise, if you suggest that there has to be a minimum of fifteen years for rape, it would mean in the case above the bloke would get 15 years (massively over the top) or, more likely, CPS wouldn't prosecute (which would be very wrong)
(, Wed 18 May 2011, 11:16, Reply)
I imagine it's more than what is reported.

(, Wed 18 May 2011, 11:16, Reply)
You can't just impose a life sentence for rape
That is completely unworkable. What you'd probably then find is that a greater percentage of rapes actually ended in murder. No witnesses then, innit?
(, Wed 18 May 2011, 11:30, Reply)

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