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(, Sun 1 Apr 2001, 1:00)
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probably, right.
because although it's superficially lovely, Switzerland is a fucking odd place to live. Like, since it's more or less impossible to get citizenship it's really hard to buy property. Oh, and you can work there all your life and be deported on zero notice (no citizenship again) and they have really odd and strict laws about noise, litter etc which again may seem superficially good but are actually a bitch to live with ... and also the trains might run like clockwork but they never show all their destanations, which is really fucking frustrating.

Oh, and it's got as a bad a rate of firearms related deaths per capita as some of the more "robust" areas of the US. Minor point.
(, Tue 5 Jul 2011, 14:14, 2 replies, latest was 15 years ago)
I'm going to refute that
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate

I know it's wikipedia, but the numbers there show that the death rate is nearly half that of the US, and most of it is suicides, not homicides.
(, Tue 5 Jul 2011, 14:16, Reply)
statistically miles out of date. I believe it's much higher these days but of course I can't prove it
But, yeah, I'm probably slightly exaggerating. It's still brutally high for a developed mainland european country with "supposedly" civilised society. Like, it's 15 times higher than England.

Also, I'm not entirely sure about this (I'll grant you it does sound very odd) but a close friend who has lived in Geneva for about 15 years told me that it's classified as suicide if it's your own gun, hence the very odd stats. I'll admit that sounds like bollocks, but remember the Swiss are VERY odd.
(, Tue 5 Jul 2011, 14:19, Reply)
Look badger, you can't be right about everything all the time
why don't you be the bigger man and just admit you're wrong about this.
(, Tue 5 Jul 2011, 14:21, Reply)
I said I was exaggerating. Consider that one up for team Al.
Although, I'm genuinely interested if there is any truth in my edit.
(, Tue 5 Jul 2011, 14:23, Reply)
Are you saying that shooting someone else with your own gun counts as suicide?
Or are you saying it's ONLY suicide if it's your own gun?
(, Tue 5 Jul 2011, 14:27, Reply)
no, he said it was to do with whether or not you were shot with your own gun.
Like I said, sounds like bollocks but you can never tell with the Swiss
(, Tue 5 Jul 2011, 14:33, Reply)
I found out the other week
that my cousin used to hang about with a founder member of Swiss industrialist rockers the Young Gods. I was quite impressed by this.

I knew there were some strange things about the place, but hadn't realised the level of restrictions there. So you may have a point.
(, Tue 5 Jul 2011, 14:18, Reply)
You cant' flush your toilet after a certain time of night in some apartment blocks.
But on the plus side, nobody has any problems with changing large bank notes if that's all you have.
(, Tue 5 Jul 2011, 14:19, Reply)
I have a vague recollection of this when I was staying with my Aunt.

(, Tue 5 Jul 2011, 14:20, Reply)
Is there anyone who is into "[country] [made up sub-type of music that means NOTHING AT ALL] [music Ganra]" who doesn't claim to know every single band personally?

(, Tue 5 Jul 2011, 14:27, Reply)
I don't.
But my cousin does.
(, Tue 5 Jul 2011, 14:29, Reply)
I like that Swiss emo band
My Chemical Romansch.
(, Tue 5 Jul 2011, 14:31, Reply)
I like that violent god bothering rock band
'Guns n Moses'
(, Tue 5 Jul 2011, 14:32, Reply)
And the goth band with a very short reach
Flids of the Nephilim.
(, Tue 5 Jul 2011, 14:34, Reply)
that shouldn't have made me laugh
but it did. You cunt.
(, Tue 5 Jul 2011, 14:36, Reply)
Scouse eyeliner-botherers
Sisters of Mersey.
(, Tue 5 Jul 2011, 14:37, Reply)

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