Speaking purely philosophically though
There can be no observation without an actual observer, a point of observation is all very well, but there must be a conscious entity to have the perception.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 26 Jul 2011, 14:51, 2 replies, latest was 15 years ago)

And this is why all philosophy departments should have been burned to the ground in February 1970.

( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Tue 26 Jul 2011, 14:55, Reply)

Spoken like a true materialist.
I happen to think there's room for both in this world, but it won't distress me to find you disagree.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 26 Jul 2011, 15:09, Reply)

You don't "happen to think" at all.
Your thoughts are entirely the result of your brain's material existence. Although in this case that material would probably be better used for fuel or animal feed.
( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Tue 26 Jul 2011, 15:11, Reply)

This is an opinion
One could equally hold that my brain's material existence is a product of my thoughts.

To put it simply: We know of the world through our perceptions, we have nothing else, these perceptions are a function of the brain, therefore our knowledge of the world comes through our brains. I would be quite surprised it the limitations of our brains did not affect our ability to perceive, and therefore our concepts of reality.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 26 Jul 2011, 15:17, Reply)

simply inanely
( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Tue 26 Jul 2011, 15:21, Reply)

Meh.
Give any actual argument of your own, rather than sniping at other peoples with out making a case of your own and I may value your opinion (because of course this is so important to you(this is sarcasm BTW, just to be clear)).

I'm sure there are holes in my beliefs/arguments/whatever and it might be an interesting conversation to have, but if you don't want to have it,I shan't loose any sleep.

Now make some quick and easy comment that implies I'm a moron and fuck off.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 26 Jul 2011, 15:28, Reply)

You replied to a post about Relativity with a half-remembered bit of Berkeley.
Simultaneously obsolete and a non sequitur.

No offence, but I didn't really need to type anything at all for you to look like a moron.
( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Tue 26 Jul 2011, 15:40, Reply)

The universe exists when we close our eyes.
There's little point talking about philosophy and Einsteinian physics, there is some validity talking about observation in quantum physics but the quantum effects fall away when you're talking about any time changing scales of mass or velocity.
(PsychoChomp, Tue 26 Jul 2011, 14:56, Reply)

Weak argument.
there are several other senses and if you successfully shut them all off you'd have no evidence that the universe continued to exist. You might infer from the fact that it was still there when you reconnected to it that is had always been there, but you could equally infer that the fridge light stays on with the door closed, but I don't believe this to be the case.

I'm not even touching physics Einsteinian or otherwise as I am ill equipped to do so which is why I started my post with "Speaking purely philosophically".
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 26 Jul 2011, 15:01, Reply)

It doesn't warrant even a weak argument to refute such a fatuous dollop of sixth form navel-gazery.

( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Tue 26 Jul 2011, 15:09, Reply)

Just because you lack the ability, no need to get snippy about it.
It's just a logic game is all, useful exercise.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 26 Jul 2011, 15:13, Reply)

Wow.
You'll be bragging about your amazing Sudoku skills next.
( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Tue 26 Jul 2011, 15:14, Reply)

I am a Black Belt
3rd Dan Grand Master at Sudoku.

Are you actually a doctor of some kind?
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 26 Jul 2011, 15:18, Reply)

It doesn't surprise me.
They're of a kind. Pointless brain fodder for people with nothing constructive to think about. Mental line dancing.

Yes. I'm a doctor of some kind.
( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Tue 26 Jul 2011, 15:21, Reply)

OK, I guess the Sarcasm wasn't evident in text form, never mind.
Which kind, out of curiosity?
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 26 Jul 2011, 15:22, Reply)

Mathematics.

( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Tue 26 Jul 2011, 15:32, Reply)

Thank you.
This makes a lot of sense.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 26 Jul 2011, 15:33, Reply)

I doubt it, petal.

( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Tue 26 Jul 2011, 15:41, Reply)

If I have four sisters and I give each sister four lemon and two potatoes, how many peices of fruit will there be in total.
Just testing. Anyone can say they're a mathmatician on the internet.
( girlinthehole, Tue 26 Jul 2011, 15:34, Reply)

Is a potato a fruit?
I can never remember.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 26 Jul 2011, 15:36, Reply)

shush!
It's a trick question.
( girlinthehole, Tue 26 Jul 2011, 15:37, Reply)

Don't try tricking him.
He's a doctor, he'll be able to tell.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 26 Jul 2011, 15:37, Reply)

"Anyone can say they're a mathmatician on the internet."
Apart from you, seemingly.
( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Tue 26 Jul 2011, 15:42, Reply)

And...................another negative comment.
Looks like I'm not the only consistant one.
( girlinthehole, Tue 26 Jul 2011, 15:44, Reply)

You could call him a troll
and watch him get indignant and link to Wikipedia articles that disagree with whatever his definition is. At least last time that happened he fucked off again for a bit.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 26 Jul 2011, 15:49, Reply)

He went on holiday.
He'll have saved up a whole heap of witty comments for us.
( girlinthehole, Tue 26 Jul 2011, 15:51, Reply)

Woo, and indeed Yay.
Y'know, I never used to like the HSH threads much, but given the people who seem to have really disliked them, it's almost worth confirming some people's pre-conceptions and trying to revive the tradition.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 26 Jul 2011, 15:53, Reply)

You're right.
I spent the entire festival planning what I'd say if a BGN made a slightly dim reply to a comment about relativity. That's just how I roll.
( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Tue 26 Jul 2011, 15:56, Reply)

"consistent"

( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Tue 26 Jul 2011, 15:54, Reply)

He's like Dr Zeuss.
Looks nice in a hat and talks bollocks.
( girlinthehole, Tue 26 Jul 2011, 15:21, Reply)

but it doesn't rhyme Blousie
I like it better when it rhymes
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 26 Jul 2011, 15:23, Reply)

The orangutan from Planet of the Apes?

( The Light in Chains don't touch the Pope's boner, Tue 26 Jul 2011, 15:30, Reply)

Thats the chap.

( girlinthehole, Tue 26 Jul 2011, 15:32, Reply)

His name was Seuss and he wasn't a doctor and he didn't habitually wear a hat.
You're like the Magic Porridge Pot of Wrong.
( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Tue 26 Jul 2011, 15:34, Reply)

At least I'm consistant.

( girlinthehole, Tue 26 Jul 2011, 15:35, Reply)