Kevin Smith is a tool.
Made one alright comedy and then polluted the world with pap.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:36, 2 replies, latest was 15 years ago)

Clerks was fucking dull

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:37, Reply)

Forgot clerks was first, was thinking Mallrats.

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:38, Reply)

sportscow
you're a great man, and I usually support you, but here, you're wronger than an underaged shit-soaked vole in a negligee.

Clerks was fucking brilliant. Ditto Chasing Amy.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:43, Reply)

I like this
for the wrong statement
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:49, Reply)

Chasing Amy, Jersey Girl, Dogma and Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back are all fucking excellent films
I'm yet to see Clerks 1 & 2, but I will do, and doubtless, they will be superb.
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:38, Reply)

I thought Jay and Silent Bob was shit too

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:39, Reply)

I really enjoyed it.

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:40, Reply)

I agree with you here, though.
Jay and Silent Bob are funny in Clerks, but the joke wears very fucking fast. To make a whole film about them ... nah.

Although, AA, since you've not see Clerks I guess that might make J&SBSB better.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:44, Reply)

I will watch it at some point

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:46, Reply)

Clerks is fantastic
Clerks 2 is even better

Bobby is wrong
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:39, Reply)

No shock there.

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:40, Reply)

Clerks 2 better than the original?
Potentially the most uncool and factually inaccurate thing anyone's ever said.
(Barry from Eastenders is, despite the words written above, not a woman, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:40, Reply)

How can you say that when there are so many positive reviews of Moulin Rouge out there?
Marginally better, but I stand by my statement. It has Rosario Dawson in it for a start.
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:44, Reply)

I think b3ta has established your taste in most things is suspect and now you're agreeing
with the tween. It's gonna be one of you gayer days isn't it?
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:44, Reply)

One of YOUR gayer days
The one thing you should have noticed via the medium of B3ta is that you and I have similar tastes on most things, you just happen to be wrong here. Now get down A&E, that bullet isn't going to remove itself from your foot.
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:53, Reply)

Similar tastes?
Elaborate? Music, nope, TV, BSG... nope, Film - I think we have a few in common, Sequins nope, man on man bukkake parties, definitely not
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 10:12, Reply)

We have plenty of similar tastes in music of the rock variety
We just differ on the merits of White Pony if I remember rightly. Have finally started watching those Wire DVDs you kindly sent me and it's excellent so far. I am sad to hear you've given up on football though.
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 10:16, Reply)

i want to have your babies

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 10:20, Reply)

I get that a lot

(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 10:21, Reply)

you throw words like excellent around willy nilly bruv. They really aren't 'excellent'
you may like them a lot but for something to be excellent it needs to be a lot better than the bilge that yank prick spews out.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:42, Reply)

Dogma is still one of my favourite films
To describe it as less than excellent would be stupid of me to do so.

As for the rest, I enjoyed the film, I laughed at the comedy, and appreciated the whole thing. So why shouldn't I state that they are excellent?
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:43, Reply)

*unashamed Kevin Smith fan fist-bumps*

(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:45, Reply)

for the reason you just posted, you enjoyed them and laughed at the comedy
so they are good, funny, enjoyable but excellent... In my opinion it's the same as when people overuse the word legend. Excellent should be the highest accolade something can get and by using it too much it diminishes it's impact. I don't doubt you like his films and I did too when I was in my teens/early twenties but to call them excellent is a bit much I reckon.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:48, Reply)

Don't get me started on 'awesome' either.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:57, Reply)

I agree with this.

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:58, Reply)

It's the same thing you plum! Sweet Jesus.

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 10:04, Reply)

It's really really not.
'Awesome' is possibly the most overused word at the moment. I'll admit, I use it sometimes, but not 50 times a day, like so many do.
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 10:17, Reply)

I give up

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 10:21, Reply)

Typical French

(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 10:22, Reply)

To some it is, to others it isn't
Fucking fantasic, magnificent, incredible are all accolades I would use over excellent.
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:58, Reply)

well your questionable taste and grasp of the english language is another debate altogether
NO EDITING HAS HAPPENED HERE AT ALL!
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 10:03, Reply)

Psst
"Altogether" is one word in this context mate
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 10:09, Reply)

thanks love xx

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 10:12, Reply)

Anything for you sweetheart
My first instinct was to repeat everything you said before "all together" and encourage everyone to join in.
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 10:14, Reply)

How old are you?
You have to remember Clerks was "of its time". I suspect if I watched it now I wouldn't rate it so much. But 15 years ago it was fucking excellent.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:46, Reply)

It just tries too hard to be cool
Black and white, long dialogue about fuck all, no story

T.E.D.I.O.U.S.
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:48, Reply)

I liked Schindler's list!

( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:49, Reply)

That had a touch of story though, don't you think
I know Monty hated it
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:50, Reply)

Not so, I haven't wanked so hard since.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:52, Reply)

Ahh....
The Schindler's Fist
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:53, Reply)

It was black and white because it was made for about ten pence mate
Smith financed the whole thing with maxed out credit cards and loans from mates. He shot it at night in the same store he was working in during the day, which is the real reason the shutters are always down. He was categorically not trying to be arty.
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:51, Reply)

To quote Baz
"pony"
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:52, Reply)

it's all entirely true mate.

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:55, Reply)

I'm not saying it isn't true, just I didn't like it

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:58, Reply)

that's what it was meant to do.
You might as well argue any other film tries too hard to be cool by doing whatever it does.

It's black and white because the budget was £20K. The guy was totally unknown at the time. The plot point about the shutters being jammed down with gum was because they had to film at night when the store was shut because it was the store he worked in and he couldn't afford a set.

of course, liking it's a matter of taste, no-one has to like something just because it's good. But as a piece of film-making, it is very, very good.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:54, Reply)

Not my scene boss
I just didn't enjoy it at all
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:55, Reply)

Of course.
personal taste innit? I won't judge you too much, honest.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:59, Reply)

*folds arms, looks smug*

(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:55, Reply)

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( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:54, Reply)

you'd have been 13 when it came out then.
Might have something to do with it. But like I said to sportscow, liking it or not is a matter or personal taste. The fact that it's an excellent piece of film-making is less debatable.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:58, Reply)

You're just angry because your football team is utter pony now.
Need a new goalkeeper and centre back? Why not solve both issues by spending £12m on a seventeen year old winger? Utterly brilliant.
(Barry from Eastenders is, despite the words written above, not a woman, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:46, Reply)

Haha!

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:47, Reply)

fuck knows what he is doing
I am supporting Bristol Rovers this season Baz.
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:48, Reply)