Steve Jobs has died aged 56
Who are the "up their own arse" Apple users going to idollise now?
(wehttamman via B3ta for microwave, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 1:27, 12 replies, latest was 14 years ago)

Sir Clive Sinclair may make a comeback now.

( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 7:17, Reply)

I don't know, but if I see anyone wearing a black armband today
I'm going to punch them in the face.
(berk, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 7:41, Reply)

Facebook's alive with mourners
I am going to have to keep my mouth shut today or I'll find myself a social pariah.
( Kroney, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 7:42, Reply)

the hills are alive..with the sound of mourners
it's a shame he's died like, but I really don't get the fuckwittery and fanboyism that goes with apple products.
(berk, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 7:51, Reply)

He makes stuff that's easy to use, if restrictive
and designed to look pretty.

So I don't know about anyone else, but I'm going to shift my fanboyism to the creator of Fisherprice toys.
( Kroney, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 8:01, Reply)

What about the creator of Playmobil? That stuff is amazing.

(Kitty Fantastico "Dwarf, Anorexic and In a Fight ", Thu 6 Oct 2011, 8:41, Reply)

Hello new person
come and talk to us on the thread above.
(Bazongaloid, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 8:44, Reply)

I'm actually quite gutted by this, but OK, let's look at what he did, ignoring any personal relaitonship with apple.
- He created the 'app' industry, which handed out $3b over 4 years to thousands of developers.
- He changed the entire ethos of how software is distributed and purchased, going from a model of basic retail to a single store (where anyone is allowed to sale) and making the product affordable.
- Love or hate the iPod, the iPod has done the same as Hover and become a generic name for "MP3 Player", and it was invented by teams that Steve Jobs lead.
- iTunes created a buisness model where most artists can sale, no longer are the days where shops are battling for retail space. There are plenty of music bands who would have flopped without iTunes due to never getting on shops, I can't think of too many examples, but Dan Le Sac v Scroobius Pip and Nizlopi come to mind.
- They inovated and changed the design of the 'PC', they went from a gray box to a sleek white one, single-piece aliminumum frames, backlit keyboards and so much more.
- They were the first to dump the Floppy Drive, they were the first to standardise the CD and DVD, first to standardise USB, Firwire and Thunderbolt (when that does happen).
- Innovated "Multi touch" which will change the face of how we use computers over the next 5 years.

And that's just what I can think of from the top of my head.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 8:46, Reply)

I would seriously question whether any artists have actually succeeded because of selling their own music on itunes
and not because of having label backing.

Nizlopi sold a hell of a lot of one single because of massive coverage on Radio 1, their album didn't sell as well, because, frankly it was shit, and after that they sank without trace.
(Bazongaloid, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 9:00, Reply)

I really like Nizlopi personally, that reminds me, the head-man from there has a new album out that I wanted.
I wouldn't say Radio One did it, more the youtube video with the hand-drawn animation. They wouldn't have gone to retail without it though, probably, maybe.

I can't think of any examples off-hand, but it bipasses a lot of the production expenses and therefore allows the song/album to go to market without that initial investment, thus it's not so much a risk for anyone.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 9:18, Reply)

But without label backing, nobody plays it on radio, and therefore nobody knows it exists to buy it.
And hardly anyone makes significant money of actual music sales these days, it's all merchandising and concert ticket sales, even with massive bands like say, Iron Maiden, you might not like them, but they have shifted millions of albums. If they stopped doing tours they wouldn't sell any T-Shirts and they wouldn't make any money.

Not that I reckon they actually need to keep doing it if they didn't want to, but a new band doesn't have that luxury.
(Bazongaloid, Thu 6 Oct 2011, 9:33, Reply)

iPod
"Love or hate the iPod, the iPod has done the same as Hover and become a generic name for "MP3 Player", and it was invented by teams that Steve Jobs lead."

Agree with the first part, but I'm not sure how taking a device already on the market, making it look pretty and naming it something else is considered 'inventing'.
(dchurch bah, Fri 7 Oct 2011, 11:52, Reply)