I am genuinely interested, not looking for a fight
but I realise it's a pointless minefield because it really depends on whay people mean by the "ethics" of it.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 25 Oct 2011, 12:35, 2 replies, latest was 14 years ago)

If you are genuinely interested there are better places to find out
not least because Swipe, Blousie and myself are atypical vegetarians. There are also a ton of different answers, some of the basics outlined here. Personally I wish both sides would stop sniping and jus eat what they want to.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 25 Oct 2011, 12:47, Reply)

^this

( girlinthehole, Tue 25 Oct 2011, 12:48, Reply)

I'm not sniping. I've asked to a genuine answer to something that confuses me.
You seem to think I'm doing this for the lolz.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 25 Oct 2011, 12:51, Reply)

Maybe vegans think that we've reached a moral and technological point where killing something to eat is not necessary anymore.
We can live without meat quite successfully.
( girlinthehole, Tue 25 Oct 2011, 13:01, Reply)

when we evolve to be able to digest cellulose, hemicellulose and lignin
that might be true. Although, granted, the major driving factor for that would be consumption of them, so you've got a fair point
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 25 Oct 2011, 13:15, Reply)

I'm just guessing tbh.
I'm more against something suffering for my consumption.
( girlinthehole, Tue 25 Oct 2011, 13:17, Reply)

You've admitted to baiting, but OK.
Personally, my reasons are a combination of what Beej says about farming practices, combined with being unwilling to kill anything personally, so I find it morally consistent not to eat it. I would kill and or eat animals if I needed to, hell I'd kill and or eat you if I needed to, but I don't, so I don't. There are other reasons and Its not all clear in my head yet, but that's thr thrust of it for me.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 25 Oct 2011, 13:03, Reply)

Nah, I was referring to if I ever abuse vegetarianism on here
that's me baiting. I'm not abusing any choice at all in this instance, it's the ultimate expression of the ethics I don't understand.

I understand your reasons as you personal decisions, of course, I guess I'm thinking more of a "group ethic" thing as to why human society thinks it matters why eating meat is something should be stopped if not necessary, but happily continues with other practices which are vastly more harmful and equally as unnecessary without a second's thought. But, like you, I haven't fully thought this through, I just wondered what people thought.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 25 Oct 2011, 13:13, Reply)

because humans, in groups, are morons basically.
once you accept this you'll find the world less confusing.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 25 Oct 2011, 13:22, Reply)

Oh I know this. I'm a University lecturer, remember?
I wonder why they are so selectively moronic though.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 25 Oct 2011, 13:29, Reply)

Human nature, innit?
Also, being a lecturer you get to meet the 'clever ones', just think the average, voting, prole is a good whack less bright that most people you interact with.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 25 Oct 2011, 13:32, Reply)

They don't snipe all the animals, bolt guns usuallu
And big fat swords for halal
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Tue 25 Oct 2011, 13:01, Reply)

A middling county cricket side pretty good in the 90's?

( The Light in Chains don't touch the Pope's boner, Tue 25 Oct 2011, 13:14, Reply)