Alt: No, they're important

(PsychoChomp, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 16:01, 2 replies, latest was 14 years ago)

like cancer?

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 16:02, Reply)

For holding "managers" to account.
It's another check and balance, increasing the stability of a large organisation which is good in the long run.
(PsychoChomp, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 16:07, Reply)

If I was in charge i'd make striking illegal

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 16:07, Reply)

ing ethroughs

No, I'm not sure what the joke is here either...
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 16:09, Reply)

Yeah, but that's because you're a fucking idiot.

(Bazongaloid, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 16:09, Reply)

Do that and see how long it is until every union member in the country goes on strike.

(PsychoChomp, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 16:11, Reply)

then they'd all be fired and sent to Australia to be replaced with newly trained workers with a clause in their contract promising not to strike

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 16:12, Reply)

Try getting that message out with the civil service and journalist unions on strike.
Or getting them in with immigration officials striking.
(PsychoChomp, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 16:13, Reply)

www.b3ta.com/questions/offtopic/post1406065
(Bazongaloid, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 16:13, Reply)

Are you deliberately being a twat?
Every person has the right to withdraw their labour.
( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 16:14, Reply)

no you don't, you are paid to do a job, fucking do it and stop moaning
if you want to get paid more, stop being useless and get promoted, move to the private sector etc
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 16:15, Reply)

There was a guy on the radio this morngin, I think he was an injured soldier
and he may have written a book, but he was talking about the "unsung heroes" in afganistan, the mechanic who works 12 hours shifts in 50 degree heat, and said "then you hear about students and civil servants on strike and you think, they've not got is so bad, they should get on with their jobs".

I thought he was a stupid cunt.
(Bazongaloid, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 16:17, Reply)

ALL SOLDIERS ARE HEROS AND SHOULD ALWAYS BE AGREED WITH

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 16:19, Reply)

You're paid to do a job and you're given a contract, that's a two way thing.
You're not a slave to the employer, you're legally exchanging your labour for money within a set guideline.
(PsychoChomp, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 16:18, Reply)

Hang on, you can't have it both ways
either you accept that union leaders are required so that unions can actually exist, even if they occasionally inconvenience you when supporting their members interests, or you don't think unions are a good idea and therefore striking is just someone not turning up for work, which should be a sackable offence.
(Bazongaloid, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 16:15, Reply)

I support the right of any individual to belong to a union and believe that unions often do a good job in protecting the rights of employees.
There are certain union leaders, such as Bob Crow and Dave Prentis, who fuck me off.

They are more interested in politics than helping union members (yes I know that government policy directly impacts the rights of union members and the leaders role includes an element of political influence), see Prentis during the labour leadership election as an example.
( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 16:20, Reply)

But they aren't are they, you only hear from them when there is a dispute
or when the government is trying to change the law to deprive their members of their rights, and they do a good job since their members are doing alright because of them.
(Bazongaloid, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 16:22, Reply)

Yes, but there is a very fine line with RMT between "actual dispute"
and "another flimsy reason to hold various parts of the country to ransom"
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 16:25, Reply)

No, there is a very big line between "what the papers report as the reason for the strike"
and "what the actual reason for any given dispute is".

Since the papers never actually give the full facts you cannot possibly make that statement.
(Bazongaloid, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 16:28, Reply)

Since I have friends who have worked for LU
in a lot of cases, oh yes I can.

not all, I accept, but enough for me to be comfortable in RMT cuntishness.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 16:44, Reply)

Oh well, I know loads of people who work for British Gas and they said all the chief executives are lizards.

(Bazongaloid, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 16:53, Reply)

there you go, then.
you were right after all.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 17:03, Reply)

Told you.

(Bazongaloid, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 17:07, Reply)

A classic example of this is the seemingly-annual French air traffic controllers strike
timed just around oh let's see now...the start of the fucking summer holidays. Cunts.
(Reverend Fister "a disciplined fuckwit", Wed 26 Oct 2011, 16:28, Reply)

you can see this from the reactions to people in london
initially quite a few of them had sympathy with the tube drivers. but the RMT has called strikes too many times. people now look at their salaries, holidays, job security, and think, hmmmmm what the fuck are they whining about.

when if they had kept it for the really big issues, they'd still have more public support.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 16:29, Reply)

They don't need public support, they aren'y there to represent the public
they are there to represent their members, and they do it well.
(Bazongaloid, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 16:32, Reply)

i meant the tube drivers
who are there to serve the public, whatever else you want to say.

london depends on the transport network, for people's jobs, social lives, tourism... all of which pump money into the economy.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 16:48, Reply)

They'd get hungry and skint soon enough.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 16:13, Reply)

Exactly

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 16:14, Reply)

But it is possible to get by for quite a while being hungry and skint, isn't it Monty?

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 16:17, Reply)

Fack orf.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 16:20, Reply)

Hee hee hee

(Bazongaloid, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 16:22, Reply)

'Impotent'
Spellcheck!

Oh...
( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 16:04, Reply)