I am a rational atheist.
I believe that ghosts/ hauntings are unknown science. There are three/four different types of 'ghosts' and each type has distinct environmental requirements, therefore it is likely they are explainable with regard to those requirements and are therefore describable, and replicable by science.

Like 'recording' hauntings- stone buildings, usually granite. It's high ly likely that the recording is along the same lines as magnetic tape recordings.

Or something. You catch my drift.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Mon 14 Nov 2011, 21:32, 3 replies, latest was 14 years ago)

That sounds like bollocks to be honest.

( mark morrisons prison shoes I love Willie, Mon 14 Nov 2011, 21:33, Reply)

You think?
How so? I don't believe that ghosts are the spirits of the dead, once you're dead you're dead. And there are different types of ghosts/ hauntings, which logically can be extended to environmental causes, mental illness, etc. Just because something is unexplained doesn't mean it won't/ can't be explained.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Mon 14 Nov 2011, 21:36, Reply)

So it's not a ghost then.

( mark morrisons prison shoes I love Willie, Mon 14 Nov 2011, 21:42, Reply)

It's what we call the phenomenon.

(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Mon 14 Nov 2011, 21:55, Reply)

It's what you call the penomenon.
Which makes is confusionig as your using the same name as people use to describe there dead granny.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Mon 14 Nov 2011, 21:58, Reply)

I am not responsible for the nomenclature.

(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Mon 14 Nov 2011, 22:02, Reply)

except you think there are rational and mundane explanations. not really all that phenomenal.

( mark morrisons prison shoes I love Willie, Mon 14 Nov 2011, 22:01, Reply)

I didn't say anything was phenomenal.
Phenomenon means 'An occurrence, circumstance, or fact that is perceptible by the senses'.

That is the sense I was using.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Mon 14 Nov 2011, 22:03, Reply)

Lots of things are. Like UV light.
don't see what the fuss is here at all.

Ain't no ghosts, or any weird shit surrounding it. Tea in a stormcup.
( mark morrisons prison shoes I love Willie, Mon 14 Nov 2011, 22:07, Reply)

whatever you do
Don't ask Dozer about music.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Mon 14 Nov 2011, 21:39, Reply)

Ha!

(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Mon 14 Nov 2011, 21:41, Reply)

MARY LOVES DICK!

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Mon 14 Nov 2011, 21:34, Reply)

YOUR MOTHER SUCKS COCKS IN HELL KARRAS!

(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Mon 14 Nov 2011, 21:36, Reply)

*Spins head, throws up on a priest*

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Mon 14 Nov 2011, 21:41, Reply)

Hmmm, I thing 'believing' things with out proof
Disbars you from being rational old son, but each to their own.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Mon 14 Nov 2011, 21:38, Reply)

Of course it doesn't.
Theoretical physics postulated black holes way before any were identified, and nobody accused Hawking et al of being credulous nincompoops.

It's not blind belief either- I fully expect these things to be categorically explained in the future. And like I say, I do not believe they are dead people, just that these things haven't been explained by science.

Fucking magnets, how do they work?
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Mon 14 Nov 2011, 21:40, Reply)

That's called having a theory
And I suspect hawking et al had some evidence to go on and a back ground of research. The thing a bout theories is also that they can be proved of disproved. Beliefs tend to be imune to evidence. This is why god botherers have belifs and not theories.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Mon 14 Nov 2011, 21:45, Reply)

I know about the difference between theories, hypotheses and balls-out loony faith.
I am of the view that just as the Elizabethans didn't understand hygiene and electricity, eventually ghosts and things will be explained by science. That is fundamentally not the same as a religious type believing in God/angels/creation etc.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Mon 14 Nov 2011, 21:54, Reply)

Ghosts are all about the mind and not about science.

( girlinthehole, Mon 14 Nov 2011, 22:00, Reply)

I read on the wall of the pub toilets that ghosts give you the willies.

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Mon 14 Nov 2011, 22:01, Reply)

NEED MORE WILLIES!

( girlinthehole, Mon 14 Nov 2011, 22:04, Reply)

haha!

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Mon 14 Nov 2011, 22:06, Reply)

fair enough
But when you say "I believe in ghosts" the majority of people will not understand this as "I thing the penomena we call gohosts will one day be explained by science." I think most will read it as "I am a credulous knob", hense the reaction.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Mon 14 Nov 2011, 22:01, Reply)

I am absolutely not credulous.

(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Mon 14 Nov 2011, 22:04, Reply)

ulous ible
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Mon 14 Nov 2011, 22:07, Reply)

You're saying I'm incredible?
You are so, like, rilly rilly sweet.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Mon 14 Nov 2011, 22:08, Reply)

I love you doze.
It's not often I get to feel superior these days
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Mon 14 Nov 2011, 22:11, Reply)

In what way do you feel superior to me?

(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Mon 14 Nov 2011, 22:12, Reply)

I suspect it's his choice in wimmin.

( girlinthehole, Mon 14 Nov 2011, 22:14, Reply)

I see.
I have impeccable taste in women.

*winks at blouserino*
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Mon 14 Nov 2011, 22:15, Reply)

Winking get's you Jack shit.

( girlinthehole, Mon 14 Nov 2011, 22:18, Reply)

Or a Kroney special as it's also known!

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Mon 14 Nov 2011, 22:18, Reply)