I have to say I only rate probably four songs of theirs.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 16 Nov 2011, 16:01, 2 replies, latest was 14 years ago)

Which ones?

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 16 Nov 2011, 16:02, Reply)

Helter Skelter, Tomorrow Never Knows and....errr.....

Sorry, I think I meant to say 'two'.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 16 Nov 2011, 16:05, Reply)

And how many Take That songs do you rate?
I'll bet that those four Beatles songs are pretty peerless too.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 16 Nov 2011, 16:04, Reply)

That's the point.
Peerless they weren't - I put it to you that at every single stage of their recording career someone else was doing what they were doing but better. And it was The Pretty Things.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 16 Nov 2011, 16:06, Reply)

You are correct, but also incorrect...
They were always in the right place at the right time and reflected what was going on in music very well.
History has incorrectly portrayed them as the sole innovators, but it is equally lazy to dismiss their worth.
You can dislike them, but not dismiss them.

This argument really needs to take place over a beer and a smoke, rather than the internet.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 16 Nov 2011, 16:13, Reply)

Oh and of course The Pretty Things are fantastic.

but with SF Sorrow they were following The Beatles, not leading
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 16 Nov 2011, 16:15, Reply)

SF Sorrow is not their best work if you ask me.
The singles they were putting out around that time were fucking mindblowing. I believe 'Defecting Grey' to be the finest British psychedelic single ever made.

Also in Mr Evasion they appear to invent drum'n'bass. In the 60s.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 16 Nov 2011, 16:18, Reply)

No arguments from me there
It is fucking ace.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 16 Nov 2011, 16:21, Reply)

_{not leading who in turn were desperately trying to keep up with The Beach Boys.}
(LongJohnBaldry, Wed 16 Nov 2011, 16:21, Reply)

Wilson was out of the race by then
One of the things that helped tip him over was McCartney dropping by and playing She's Leaving Home to him on the piano.
This says a lot about the poor man's mental state, as that is a truly awful song.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 16 Nov 2011, 16:26, Reply)

Hahahah it really is.
The whole of Sgt Pepper is fucking dreadful if you ask me.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 16 Nov 2011, 16:28, Reply)