Didn't punk start during a labour government, about 1977?

( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Wed 8 Feb 2012, 9:00, 2 replies, latest was 14 years ago)

Punk barely even existed as a movement though, it was come and gone in the blink of an eye and would be all but forgotten if not for the fact that it was the music of choice for a group of people who grew up to become the next generations music journalists. To claim punk had any major impact is really like claiming The Stone Roses changed the face of music. It's the story we are told, not the reality of what happened.
( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Wed 8 Feb 2012, 9:04, Reply)

Yeah, whatever.

( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Wed 8 Feb 2012, 9:06, Reply)

Stone Roses were/are fucking shit.

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Wed 8 Feb 2012, 9:07, Reply)

I happen to disagree, but I was using them as an example of how the impact of something can be massively over stated, so it doesn't really matter for the point I was making.

( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Wed 8 Feb 2012, 9:13, Reply)

Ahh, fair point

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Wed 8 Feb 2012, 9:14, Reply)

No, they really are/were shit.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 8 Feb 2012, 9:17, Reply)

I learnt long ago to enjoy your opinions on music for what they are.
Passionately wrong.

With odd exceptions.
( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Wed 8 Feb 2012, 9:20, Reply)

I was rather surprised to discover the other day that the recorded version of 'Pretty Vacant' is rather good.

( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Wed 8 Feb 2012, 9:07, Reply)

The Sex Pistols were a superb band.
The old 'anyone can form a punk band' idea, whilst technically true, is rendered pointless as not everyone can write memorable songs let alone decent ones, and in some respects writing decent simple music is hardest of all. See how few people can create decent blues, as an example.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 8 Feb 2012, 9:11, Reply)

M. Boyce in 'actually likes something' shocker!

( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Wed 8 Feb 2012, 9:20, Reply)

It was McClaren who helped perpetuate that myth though
He claimed that none of the Pistols could play an instrument, which clearly wasn't true.
Vicious was an untalented shitebag, mind.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 8 Feb 2012, 9:21, Reply)

They were shit.

( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Wed 8 Feb 2012, 9:28, Reply)

Your mum was shit.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 8 Feb 2012, 9:49, Reply)

I stood next to Ari Up's mum at a Slits gig a couple of years back
so I've effectively had carnal knowledge John Lydon.
( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Wed 8 Feb 2012, 10:13, Reply)

My housemate's girlfriend at uni fucked John Leslie at a med students ball
according to him, that meant he'd shagged Zeta-Jones by proxy. This is the kind of logic we can work with, Shambles.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 8 Feb 2012, 10:17, Reply)

I have an almost certainly libelous anecdote about John Leslie from the edinburgh fringe about fifteen years ago.
He was a proper grim and creepy fucker.
( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Wed 8 Feb 2012, 10:29, Reply)

can you libel a rapist for being creepy?

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 8 Feb 2012, 10:46, Reply)

I discovered on CSI: NY at the the weekend
that The Ramones were the first real punk band, so it must be true
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 8 Feb 2012, 9:59, Reply)

Their original name was The Darwin Fails

( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Wed 8 Feb 2012, 10:14, Reply)

really?

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 8 Feb 2012, 10:14, Reply)

o_o

( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Wed 8 Feb 2012, 10:17, Reply)

it's early in the morning, scarpe
don't be expecting my brain to be paying attention to shit.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 8 Feb 2012, 10:19, Reply)

To be fair, without the picture to jog my brain I may have believed it too.

( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Wed 8 Feb 2012, 10:21, Reply)

Oh badger.
[sadface]
( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Wed 8 Feb 2012, 10:30, Reply)

what can I say? no enough caffiene yet.

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 8 Feb 2012, 10:47, Reply)