oh i know, all they did was bring it to the mainstream, most white folks never ehard it before

(Quintno EXPERIMENT RUINED CANCELLED, LEFT 4EVER, Fri 10 Feb 2012, 11:58, 1 reply, 14 years ago)

Maybe not all
some of their later stuff was more interesting. I think the problem, if there is one, is that people confuse social significance with musical ability. They have the former in spades, but musically they were nothing too special and looked at to day, there's not reason you should listen to them in preference to genuine musical geniuses such as, say, The Clash.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Fri 10 Feb 2012, 12:01, Reply)

my mum likes the beatles

(Quintno EXPERIMENT RUINED CANCELLED, LEFT 4EVER, Fri 10 Feb 2012, 12:04, Reply)

Oh fuck off
The Clash are overrated.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 10 Feb 2012, 12:05, Reply)

Hahhahaha
From the eloquently argued Beatles point to 'Fuck off' in one short step.
( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Fri 10 Feb 2012, 12:07, Reply)

I suspect he was looking for a reaction
Which, of course, makes him worse than Hitler*.


*Hopefully this invocation should bring this pointless debate to a swift conclusion
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 10 Feb 2012, 12:09, Reply)

It's not a proper Internet Debate(TM) till someone says "confirmation bias" or "straw man" without having the foggiest idea of what these terms actually mean.

( The Mock TurtIe ™ --- Thinks you are a cunt, on, Fri 10 Feb 2012, 12:10, Reply)

[inserts ad hominem attack]

( crackhouseceilidhband Fuck off back to Mumsnet, Fri 10 Feb 2012, 12:11, Reply)

Hominems have every right to get married too, you know.

( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Fri 10 Feb 2012, 12:12, Reply)

Oh yeah, forgot about "ad hominem".
That's another good staple of Internet Debates(TM).
( The Mock TurtIe ™ --- Thinks you are a cunt, on, Fri 10 Feb 2012, 12:13, Reply)

Eloquently argued but complete bollocks Beatles point, you mean.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 10 Feb 2012, 12:21, Reply)

Hook, line, sinker, rod and copy of Angling Times
Although I was fishing for Monty on that one.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Fri 10 Feb 2012, 12:18, Reply)

No problem V

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 10 Feb 2012, 12:19, Reply)

Bar no more than two or three songs The Clash are complete fucking shit.
This is a fact. Plus I AM worse than Hitler.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 10 Feb 2012, 12:19, Reply)

Damn right you are
Hitler wouldn't have been so generous to The Clash.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 10 Feb 2012, 12:21, Reply)

God they were poor.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 10 Feb 2012, 12:21, Reply)

Actually Strummer was pretty wealthy.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 10 Feb 2012, 12:27, Reply)

And a cunt.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 10 Feb 2012, 12:28, Reply)

Heh, I rather like them.
But these things are subjective and I'm neither influenced by, nor do I make any claims for their cultural significance. But the I like what I like, some is (by your standards) good and some awful.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Fri 10 Feb 2012, 12:25, Reply)

I want to be lectured on politics*
I certainly don't want my lecture to be delivered in the form of a shit song by a bunch of cunts.

*I never want to be lectured on politics
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 10 Feb 2012, 12:26, Reply)

This is fine.
I'm not actually claiming you should like them. Just know that your hatred of them adds to my enjoyment. See also: Insane Clown Posse & Sultans of Ping FC. Although I fully understand why people hate those two.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Fri 10 Feb 2012, 12:28, Reply)

And there's my day ruined.

*searches for pullover*
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 10 Feb 2012, 12:29, Reply)

If you want to be educated
listen to noted urban politicians N.W.A.'s seminal manifesto 'Fuck da Police'
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Fri 10 Feb 2012, 12:32, Reply)

I bet it's a staple of you playlists.

( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Fri 10 Feb 2012, 12:36, Reply)

Of course it is
right next to 'I Got 99 problems but the budget ain't one'
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Fri 10 Feb 2012, 12:41, Reply)

*Listens to Corporate Avenger*
If you've not heard them then I'd avoid if I were you. They combine naive and overstated politics that would make The Clash blush, with faux mysticism and a musical style not dissimilar to ICP.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Fri 10 Feb 2012, 12:36, Reply)