i've only ever seen one stripper
at a party when i was at uni. the girl was about 1 year older than the birthday boy, and clearly doing it to pay rent or something depressing. her tits sagged at the age of 20, she had cellulite all over her arse, and the birthday boy was so baby-faced that it looked as if she were raping her own child.

it was seriously depressing!
( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 15 Feb 2012, 10:14, 2 replies, latest was 14 years ago)

But if you smear it with a micron-thin veneer of irony or pretend that it is "burlesque" then it magically becomes empowering.

( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Wed 15 Feb 2012, 10:16, Reply)

serious answer is serious
i think for some women it probably is. the two girls last night were early 20's, both had amazing bodies, and were clearly happy to be marauding round the pub showing them off. but most of my friends, even the ones with spectacular figures, wouldn't do it for anything!
( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 15 Feb 2012, 10:19, Reply)

in this case, "clearly happy" almost certainly equals "skull-crushingly insecure" you realise?

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 15 Feb 2012, 10:21, Reply)

i wouldn't judge them unless i knew them
and why they did it.

i am surprised at you, darling. very shocked and surprised.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 15 Feb 2012, 10:25, Reply)

what, in assuming that a large majority of women that claim that stripping is "empowering"
are actually massively insecure? I thought that was pretty much universally accepted.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 15 Feb 2012, 10:27, Reply)

oh i don't know
i've never really paid any attention to the empowerment thing. to me, if you want to get your kit off, do it. if you want to keep it on, do it.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 15 Feb 2012, 10:28, Reply)

Right. But my question was about what distinguishes those well-to-do girls from the working class girls who've been puckering their twats at punters in seedy pubs for the last fifty years?

( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Wed 15 Feb 2012, 10:22, Reply)

watching fat tattoed chavs push their unwilling 16 year old sons
through doors in the Amsterdam red light district is considerably more depressing for humanity in general, believe me.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 15 Feb 2012, 10:19, Reply)

right of passage innit

(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Wed 15 Feb 2012, 10:19, Reply)

surely a right of passage would be to let the poor fucker actually pull someone
rather than being scarred for life thinking sex is some dull mechanical thing with some cold, glazed-eyed machine?

bonus points for a "like your mum?" line here.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 15 Feb 2012, 10:23, Reply)

minus points for spelling
"rite of passage"

i think a "right of passage" is what you pay for in those places...
( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 15 Feb 2012, 10:27, Reply)

I was just copying stunned, miss.
s'not my fault.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 15 Feb 2012, 10:29, Reply)

Quite rite.

(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Wed 15 Feb 2012, 10:29, Reply)