Well if 40% is considered too high
I'm not suddenly going to be ok with 50%. Consider it to be 40% plus that I have a problem with.

At least, I don't have a problem so much with the amount of tax, but the fact that so much of it gets lost in inefficiency. Tax people to the knuckle, sure, but have something to show for it.
( Kroney, Tue 28 Feb 2012, 14:27, 2 replies, latest was 14 years ago)

There's err the umm envy of the world that hole in ground known as the NHS, then there's the edumaction system ....

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Tue 28 Feb 2012, 14:29, Reply)

NHS was £108BILLION last year.

(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Tue 28 Feb 2012, 14:30, Reply)

I agree.
If businesses don't run this way then I have no idea why the civil service does.

I think it's because they are fundamentally lazy.
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Tue 28 Feb 2012, 14:30, Reply)

and they employ low calibre people that private businesses won't touch.

( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Tue 28 Feb 2012, 14:32, Reply)

Like Chompy.

(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Tue 28 Feb 2012, 14:33, Reply)

I rest my case.

( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Tue 28 Feb 2012, 14:33, Reply)

And that's just income tax.
With the fraction of my gross earnings that I have left, they then tax me on everything I buy, including food and water. They tax me on running my car, on buying my car, on insuring my car and if I choose to use the public transport network, I get taxed on that on top of the tax that the people running it get charged and which they pass on to me.

I don't know what percentage of my money goes into tax in real terms, but I bet it's a depressingly high figure.
( Kroney, Tue 28 Feb 2012, 14:40, Reply)

Stamp duty is the one that really pisses me off.

( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Tue 28 Feb 2012, 14:43, Reply)

"OH HAI buying a house?
"We're totally going to charge you tax on that, and tax the solicitors on what they charge you, who'll then pass that tax onto you and then we'll tax you to live in your own house every month, AND tax you to supply it with utilities plus tax on every luxury you fill it with.

But before all of that, here's a special one off tax!"
( Kroney, Tue 28 Feb 2012, 14:49, Reply)

Don't forget your pension
Which comes out of taxed income, is taxed when it's in the fund and then taxed when you drawer it.

Petrol and fags are about 70% tax, duty and VAT.
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Tue 28 Feb 2012, 14:44, Reply)

Cigarette tax is the real hypocrisy.
They tax the fuck out of it because it's bad and you will place a burden on the NHS by smoking. Despite the fact that a smoker will, over the course of his smoking career, pay for the cost of his own treatment and of that for several other non-smokers. This is on top of the money the NHS receives from income tax.

Again, the problem isn't the tax so much, it's the arse-about-face way it's spent.
( Kroney, Tue 28 Feb 2012, 14:47, Reply)

I blame the forrins.
Never paid tax zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

My heart's not in it.
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Tue 28 Feb 2012, 14:50, Reply)

A professional cynic?

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Tue 28 Feb 2012, 14:51, Reply)

/acknowledges.

(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Tue 28 Feb 2012, 14:53, Reply)

Inheritance tax is a lovely piece of lateral thinking

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 28 Feb 2012, 14:55, Reply)

That is fucking bollocks, as is the whole old people's home costs
I need the conversation with my parents soon to get them to sign over their house to me
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Tue 28 Feb 2012, 14:56, Reply)

done and done, I have power of attorny over them if i can prove that they are doolally
MWAHAHAHAHAHA
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 28 Feb 2012, 14:58, Reply)

Got to do it nice and early.
If it looks like a dodge it can be unwound. Buy the house for a vastly reduced sum and give them a life tennancy until they are frail.
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Tue 28 Feb 2012, 14:58, Reply)

This sounds like a good plan
I thought it was to do with 7 years or something
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Tue 28 Feb 2012, 14:59, Reply)

About right. It can still be reversed if it looks dodgy though. Hence try not to do it as a gift.

(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Tue 28 Feb 2012, 15:00, Reply)

£1 seems reasonable to me for a 2 bed bungalow

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Tue 28 Feb 2012, 15:01, Reply)

Steady, I think your Dad's trying to mug you off!

(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Tue 28 Feb 2012, 15:04, Reply)

I'm going to start stealing from them now
really I'm doing them a favour
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 28 Feb 2012, 15:01, Reply)

That's the one where somebody you love dies and leaves you whatever they've managed to scrape together
over a lifetime of 50% effective tax and once they pass it on to you, the government taxes you on it?

Even death can't save you from the taxman.
( Kroney, Tue 28 Feb 2012, 14:57, Reply)

what's sad is when people have to sell treasured possions/homes to pay the tax on treasured possesions homes

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 28 Feb 2012, 14:58, Reply)

There was a piece on this on the BBC about 18 months ago
they worked out that if you work full time on the average UK wage, they money you earn between 1st January and 16th June (or something equally heinous) is all tax/NI. Only after that do you actually start earning cash for yourself.
(berk, Tue 28 Feb 2012, 14:54, Reply)

Making the average tax on the average income
somewhere in the region of 47%

Rape.

Actually, that's more like 50.5% isn't it?
( Kroney, Tue 28 Feb 2012, 14:56, Reply)

I'd take a little gentle raping instead of paying tax

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 28 Feb 2012, 14:57, Reply)

I'd take one brutal rape a year instead of tax.

(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Tue 28 Feb 2012, 14:59, Reply)

It has to be adminstered by David Mellor

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 28 Feb 2012, 15:00, Reply)

actualy, does it matter if the man raping you is ugly or not?

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 28 Feb 2012, 15:00, Reply)

Or wearing his Chelsea shirt?

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Tue 28 Feb 2012, 15:01, Reply)

Done.

(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Tue 28 Feb 2012, 15:01, Reply)

Brace oneself
One is going in dry


( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Tue 28 Feb 2012, 15:03, Reply)

Is there any other way?

(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Tue 28 Feb 2012, 15:04, Reply)

*unleashes the sportstax*

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Tue 28 Feb 2012, 14:59, Reply)