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 fat burning and muscle toning
	fat burning and muscle toningnot weight loss. i don't really want the scales to move, as i'm bang in the middle of a healthy weight range (MORE so now that the gym measured me at 5'7", hoorah, i've always thought i was 5'6)
but i want to be in much better shape, and to be a better shape. it's all too unevenly bunched up and i have stupid chicken legs and arms (not wings).
(, Wed 24 Jul 2013, 11:03, 3 replies, latest was 12 years ago)
 fair enough,
	fair enough, i'm in the same situation really, but i'm sticking to weight training, all that personal trainer stuff looks like torture, and i enjoy lifting.
(, Wed 24 Jul 2013, 11:05, Reply)
 you sound to know what you're doing though
	you sound to know what you're doing thoughi don't - i get stuck in a rut and then i get bored. i want to learn more about it. lifting is good, but the bars scare me a bit, i need the PT to help me. she made me do about 20 mins of boxing last night, it was fucking brilliant.
afterwards she said, "tough day, was it?!"
(, Wed 24 Jul 2013, 11:08, Reply)
 i only know what i'm doing from asking other people that lift, and youtube videos for form,
	i only know what i'm doing from asking other people that lift, and youtube videos for form, and a bit of research.. There are whole programs out there written for you, starting strength, and tone up and super bulk and everything. Personal trainers are good if you need motivation though, i know i found it hard to get in to the gym at first.
(, Wed 24 Jul 2013, 11:10, Reply)
 it's hard if you've worked from 8-8 to get off your arse and haul it to the gym, and your current job's much more physically tiring than mine
	it's hard if you've worked from 8-8 to get off your arse and haul it to the gym, and your current job's much more physically tiring than minei'd like to think this 8 weeks will meet my goal of toning up and reshaping my waist, then i can keep in touch with the trainer for a touch up every other week or so, but have the knowledge to do it myself.
there are some really good plans online. i got into running by the couch-5k plan; prior to that i always set off too fast and got disillusioned.
(, Wed 24 Jul 2013, 11:13, Reply)
 Running is good
	Running is goodIt makes me relax as my brain switches off from sensible stuff
(, Wed 24 Jul 2013, 11:15, Reply)
 yeah, if i'm honest i'm struggling to get to the gym more than twice a week at the moment,
	yeah, if i'm honest i'm struggling to get to the gym more than twice a week at the moment, which sucks donkey balls, but i'm in no real hurry, i can tone up slowly for now, then when my schedule settles down, get in to going 4 or 5 times a week.
I need to decide whether i'm going to lean down, or just go on a bit of perma-bulk and get all muscly.
(, Wed 24 Jul 2013, 11:17, Reply)
 yeah, but then i don't really want to be a big muscley freak man,
	yeah, but then i don't really want to be a big muscley freak man, i work with a guy that is a powerlifter, and i just don't see that body shape suiting me.
(, Wed 24 Jul 2013, 11:23, Reply)
 The problem seems to be that it is a one way trip.
	The problem seems to be that it is a one way trip.Either you maintain those muscles forever, or you turn into a fat mess.
I'll stick with skinny, thanks.
(, Wed 24 Jul 2013, 11:41, Reply)
 I have a cousin who used to be a body builder maybe25 years ago.
	I have a cousin who used to be a body builder maybe25 years ago.He's now just a wee fat bloke. Muscle turns to fat - there's no hiding from it.
(, Wed 24 Jul 2013, 11:47, Reply)
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