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Well what he spends his money on - that's where we get back into snobbery, isn't it?
If a plumber buys a coffee percolator and prefers a light salmon salad with a mint & pea puree and artisan bread instead of a full English, is he working class, middle class, or just in need of a good shoeing?
(, Mon 11 Nov 2013, 10:57, 2 replies, latest was 12 years ago)
Class is traditionally defined as working class = manual/trade work
and middle class = professional/clerical.

Since it's only a social tradition in the first place, I reckon that'll do.
(, Mon 11 Nov 2013, 11:01, Reply)
I Will settle with kroney on this i reckon.I
It's not that important to me either.
(, Mon 11 Nov 2013, 11:03, Reply)
You're a gentleman electrician.
You should put this on your van and turn up to jobs wearing a monocle.
(, Mon 11 Nov 2013, 11:11, Reply)
This I really like.
"Gosh, madam - what Ceboidea installed THIS device? The parameters of its setting are barely cognisant!"
(, Mon 11 Nov 2013, 11:13, Reply)
Ah, the apostrophe. It will always betray the grammatically upwardly mobile.

(, Mon 11 Nov 2013, 11:16, Reply)
Gah.

(, Mon 11 Nov 2013, 11:21, Reply)
What if your trade is as a clerical professional? Pffft.
But yes - I largely agree.

Basically I don't like to associate with anyone who gets their hands dirty for a living, as they're a bit common.
(, Mon 11 Nov 2013, 11:06, Reply)
If your work is clerical professional, it isn't a trade by definition.

(, Mon 11 Nov 2013, 11:07, Reply)
Solicitors, lawyers - these are clerical jobs. Administrators, too.
I see your point - I'm just mocking how completely arbitrary the boundaries are.
(, Mon 11 Nov 2013, 11:11, Reply)
EXCUSE ME
clerical, my fucking arse.
(, Mon 11 Nov 2013, 11:13, Reply)
It's just being able to read quite well, and be good at filing.

(, Mon 11 Nov 2013, 11:14, Reply)
it's like being a fish
the bait and the urge to rise to it are irresistible.............
(, Mon 11 Nov 2013, 11:16, Reply)
They're professions, not trades.
It's not really that arbitrary, you work with your hands, it's a trade. Though why it's been decided that trades are working class and professions are not, I don't know. It doesn't seem terribly applicable anymore as you have to sit through qualifications to check a boiler just as you have to sit through qualifications to effect a civil law suit.

Still, there it is. I'm just pointing out what the boundaries are, not commenting on their relevance.
(, Mon 11 Nov 2013, 11:14, Reply)
So a surgeon's a tradesman?
Or a pilot?
(, Mon 11 Nov 2013, 11:16, Reply)
You're not going to knock down any social boundaries by splitting hairs, you know.

(, Mon 11 Nov 2013, 11:17, Reply)
Hahaha

(, Mon 11 Nov 2013, 11:20, Reply)
yeah
that would make you a barber. tres working class.
(, Mon 11 Nov 2013, 11:32, Reply)
"Trays"

(, Mon 11 Nov 2013, 11:35, Reply)
No, she washes hair

(, Mon 11 Nov 2013, 11:38, Reply)
He's an idiot - what kid of breakfast is that?

(, Mon 11 Nov 2013, 11:01, Reply)
Well - quite.

(, Mon 11 Nov 2013, 11:13, Reply)

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