They don't 'make' money because they're not customer facing,
but they facilitate the bringing in of money by other departments.

Oil doesn't make my car run, but I know it wouldn't get very bloody far if I didn't have any in my engine at all.
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Mon 18 Nov 2013, 12:33, 2 replies, latest was 12 years ago)

they're nothing but a drain on valuable income and resources
a great big smelly DRAIN
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 18 Nov 2013, 12:34, Reply)

well, a lot of them smell, anyway

( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 18 Nov 2013, 12:34, Reply)

So, just as a matter of interest,
how do you personally attract new clients to your firm? Standing outside with a sandwich board?
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Mon 18 Nov 2013, 12:35, Reply)

Considering how utterly, helplessly useless with computers she is
it's absolutely no stretch at all to say that she wouldn't have a job bringing in money if there wasn't an IT guy holding her hand and showing her how to make her emails look pretty.
( Kroney, Mon 18 Nov 2013, 12:38, Reply)

er, no
I make money because I advise on the law and commercial solutions.

frequently I am prevented from turning this around in a timely fashion because the computer has broken. or the server has gone down. blah blah.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 18 Nov 2013, 12:44, Reply)

Idiot, without those assets you'd be advising via fucking carrier pigeon.

( Kroney, Mon 18 Nov 2013, 12:48, Reply)

yer yer yer

( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 18 Nov 2013, 12:51, Reply)

me personally?
existing contacts
referrals from existing clients/managing agents/surveyors etc
articles that I've written or cases I've acted on that have been in the press
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 18 Nov 2013, 12:43, Reply)

You can say to a mechanic "if it wasn't for the fact that I don't have the first idea how to top up my coolant, you wouldn't have a job"
but it wouldn't be any more true than saying to an IT bod "you wouldn't have a job if I could work out how to turn my monitor on".

Our jobs aren't dependant on spastics.
( Kroney, Mon 18 Nov 2013, 12:35, Reply)

Yeah, your job isn't *just* looking after spastics,
but it's got to be a part of the spec, no?
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Mon 18 Nov 2013, 12:42, Reply)

I don't work for the training department, so no.
Doesn't stop them ringing.
( Kroney, Mon 18 Nov 2013, 12:43, Reply)

Start working to rule.
Pass all their stupid enquiries to the head of that section.
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Mon 18 Nov 2013, 12:44, Reply)

I frequently tell people to go to the training department or try Google.
It's go me something of a, er, reputation.
( Kroney, Mon 18 Nov 2013, 12:49, Reply)