Look sorry I'm not letting this one go until I have an answer
I don't care about their currency or their army or the Scottish Space Program.

Why are we trying so hard to keep them?
( Peej, Mon 17 Feb 2014, 11:27, 4 replies, latest was 11 years ago)

The only reason I actually want them to stay is because I want the UK to remain as it is.
That's it, really. I have no particular reasons beyond the fact that I think it'd be a shame. They have the choice of self-determination and if they choose to go, they can.

I don't think anybody's trying particularly hard to keep them, points are just being made as to what's likely to happen if they go. There's no reason at all why we'd allow them to share our currency and lots as to why it'd be a liability for us etc. but nobody's saying "please don't go :((("

Given the arguments being made though, they'd be stupid to leave.
( Kroney, Mon 17 Feb 2014, 11:30, Reply)

Labour need Scotland as they are fucked without their complement of Scots MPs.
Ditto the Lib Dems.

The Conservatives want to keep things the way they are. The clue's in the name.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Mon 17 Feb 2014, 11:31, Reply)

Didn't want to conserve the NHS though eh readers?!!

( Peej, Mon 17 Feb 2014, 11:34, Reply)

eh eh, satire eh

(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Mon 17 Feb 2014, 11:34, Reply)

^^this

(DBT became a fruitarian on, Mon 17 Feb 2014, 11:34, Reply)

Maybe it's just my southern bias
but I don't see how you'd afford to support all your drop-outs on just Aberdeen's allegedly world-beating financial market.
( Kroney, Mon 17 Feb 2014, 11:34, Reply)

because oil and gas revenues go straight to Westminster and don't get factored in to the usual disingenuous 'cost more to keep than raise in taxes' numbers.

(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Mon 17 Feb 2014, 11:35, Reply)

So basically the only argument for keeping them is "Change? We don't like change!"
If I were in change I'd keep really quiet about the currency and defence. Then when they vote yes just tell them to fuck right off.
( Peej, Mon 17 Feb 2014, 11:37, Reply)

Yes, pretty much.
I think that's why the arguments against have been pretty limited to "You won't be able to have this if you leave" as opposed to "we're better in a union because of"
( Kroney, Mon 17 Feb 2014, 11:42, Reply)

When is all this gonna be decided?
They've been banging on about freedom since 1995. Just fucking give them it.
( GeordieJay Bummers are deaf, Mon 17 Feb 2014, 11:36, Reply)

September

(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Mon 17 Feb 2014, 11:37, Reply)

Referendum in September.
I was in your neck of the woods on Saturday. I gotpissed :)
(DBT became a fruitarian on, Mon 17 Feb 2014, 11:38, Reply)

In Fallowfield? Trying to snare a drunk student, eh?

( GeordieJay Bummers are deaf, Mon 17 Feb 2014, 11:41, Reply)

City centre. Had a good time. I saw one of tjese homosexuals as well, shocking ay?

(DBT became a fruitarian on, Mon 17 Feb 2014, 11:44, Reply)

Not in Manchester. Ten a penny and sometimes cheaper!

( GeordieJay Bummers are deaf, Mon 17 Feb 2014, 11:46, Reply)

Oh doc what have you done?
www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/doctor-swaps-white-coat-towering-6714278
(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Mon 17 Feb 2014, 11:57, Reply)

why don't you go on questiontime and ask?
also, who voted for this clown? we should "hug" Scotland into staying???

www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/scotland-independence-debate-should-love-6714280
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 17 Feb 2014, 11:38, Reply)

I'm guessing that voters in Penrith voted for him.

(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Mon 17 Feb 2014, 11:41, Reply)

not specific enough
just like your Scottish policies
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 17 Feb 2014, 11:42, Reply)

Conservative voters in Penrith.
Typical Tory buffoonery.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Mon 17 Feb 2014, 11:43, Reply)

one day you might earn enough to vote tory

( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 17 Feb 2014, 11:45, Reply)

I'm never voting Tory, sozzlez xx

(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Mon 17 Feb 2014, 11:46, Reply)

voting Tory going to earn more than a pittance
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 17 Feb 2014, 11:47, Reply)

haha!
Hi Battered, that was a quick sex change!
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Mon 17 Feb 2014, 11:48, Reply)

sadly.... it wasn't really necessary, if you know what i mean
tinycocklols
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 17 Feb 2014, 11:49, Reply)

yeah, the beard growth is a bit of a giveaway

(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Mon 17 Feb 2014, 11:53, Reply)

Votes ought to be on policies.
You ought to be at least open-minded on changing the party you vote for, should their policies reflect your interests.
( Kroney, Mon 17 Feb 2014, 11:48, Reply)

well yes
But I believe in a big government which looks after its citizens, and a properly funded welfare state for those who need it, as well as an NHS which operates effectively.

None of these policies are espoused by the Conservatives.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Mon 17 Feb 2014, 11:52, Reply)

So do I,
but they're not really properly represented by Labour, either.
( Kroney, Mon 17 Feb 2014, 11:58, Reply)

Vichy^

(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Mon 17 Feb 2014, 11:53, Reply)

“I’d like to see 10 or 15,000 families from Cumbria joining hands along the wall and the same amount in Newcastle. I’m appealing for different groups, such as the Women’s Institute, unions and schools to join in,” said Mr Stewart.

Women and children first, eh?
( GeordieJay Bummers are deaf, Mon 17 Feb 2014, 11:43, Reply)