Today's topic to make your blood boil
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/7613403.stm

words fail me

there are some excellent comments at the bottom though
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 15 Sep 2008, 16:50, 24 replies, latest was 16 years ago)

Read that earlier
Makes me want to go visit actually even though I know visiting will boil my blood ten times over.

I'm sure it'd make me laugh very, very hard.
( Captain V, Mon 15 Sep 2008, 16:57, Reply)

interesting..
..and didn't we just spend 5 Billion on a collider to prove that god doesn't exist?

ie Big bang theory greater than 7 day rubbish.

Gah, God botherers really annoy me.
(The Archduke of South London I'm in your Girlfriend eating her organs, Mon 15 Sep 2008, 17:00, Reply)

I want
bee eyes and the ability to shit silk like a spider.

God, come on and sort it out, sharpish like please ya lazy cunt
(Halfy By light alone, Mon 15 Sep 2008, 17:00, Reply)

On my old car,
I had this:



and was yelled at a number of times by god botherers telling me I was going to hell. I tell them I'm from there.
( Batshitmentalist is sane for once, Mon 15 Sep 2008, 17:13, Reply)

I like it
what I don't quite understand is this:

if God kicked Satan out, then why would Satan set up a place to punish people for going against God?

Either Hell kicks ass, or it is under the management of God, thus proving that he is a cunt.

not that any of that stuff exists.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 15 Sep 2008, 17:15, Reply)

Where can I get one?!
I'd love to stick one of those on the back of every car I own for the rest of my life!
( Captain V, Mon 15 Sep 2008, 17:47, Reply)

For anybody that's interested
I found it here: www.northernsun.com/n/s/2214.html
( Captain V, Mon 15 Sep 2008, 18:57, Reply)

I use to have one of those on my old car.
I will eventually get round to getting a new one.
( girlinthehole, Mon 15 Sep 2008, 18:43, Reply)

FFS!
Creationism. Grrrr.

Proof? Opposable thumbs. FFS.
(Eds Meds Mathskillz=1,Socialskillz=0, Mon 15 Sep 2008, 17:17, Reply)

I want to know
where they got that 47% figure from for the US. Because really, I don't think I know more than a dozen people that I have ever met in my life who believe the earth to be 10,000 years old. It may be that 47% of people believe in God or believe that God had a hand in creating life, but even that's a bit of a stretch.

Even here in Virginia they're not that nuts.
( The Resident Loon Not a demographic. Do not measure., Mon 15 Sep 2008, 17:31, Reply)

yes
i was wondering what sort of people they'd polled to arrive at such a figure, too.
( gypsy turnips, Mon 15 Sep 2008, 17:35, Reply)

Well, that's another place
on my "To be avoided at all costs" list.

Some of the comments in favour of the place are a bit, well, kooky.
(TheWeeWitch hasn't been here much recently .., Mon 15 Sep 2008, 17:49, Reply)

FFS
Scientific theory is a different thing to having a theory. If they ever bothered to fucking look that up I would be much happier.
( Madam Marlboro wonders if you've found her yet, Mon 15 Sep 2008, 19:03, Reply)

I
lost my temper reading this earlier. then lost it even more, when one of my colleagues (in a biological sciences lab in which we study aspects of evolution) told me she doesn't believe in evolution, as there is more evidence for creationism. In the bible. A book written by men.

Yes, so I'm working in the deep south of america right now, but FFS!!! Why do so many people believe that they are so fucking special that a benevolant god created them especially?

Shit, this is making my blood boil again.
( ascorbate, Mon 15 Sep 2008, 21:10, Reply)

I can't believe that people can be so small minded
what gets to me is put very well by one of the comments on that article saying that if creationism is real then basically the whole of science as we know it is wrong.

geology, biology, newtonian and einsteinian physics, the speed of light is wrong...the list goes on....

people actually say that they believe in the Creation because they can understand it...they are so fucking self-involved and retarded that they think that something they can't get their tiny minds around can't be true.

that said, I find exactly the opposite, random chance, large explosions, billions of years of evolution etc. are far more comprehensible than some all powerful being creating the world fuck all time ago, creating everything as it is (pretty much) and then abandoning it.

it's a fairy tale, nothing more
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 15 Sep 2008, 21:18, Reply)

I agree
you can't debate that with someone because the root of their stupid argument is their faith, a ridiculous concept that can't be argued with
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 15 Sep 2008, 21:32, Reply)

yup
'Trying to prove that Man evolved from monkeys because there may be some similarities, is like trying to prove that humming birds evolved from helicopters because they both fly'

and

'I find creationism more plausible, easier to understand, and leaving oneself quite satisfied.'

WTF?!

1. just - what a moron (helicopters are, of course, well known for having been on earth for far longer than birds)
2. a theory shouldn't leave you satisfied, it should leave you asking questions, so you can develop rational thought, and not accept everything a (for example) priest rams down your throat.
( ascorbate, Mon 15 Sep 2008, 21:49, Reply)

those were the two objectionable comments I picked out
that helicopter one makes me want to grab the author and forcefeed them a hummingbird followed by a helicopter
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 15 Sep 2008, 21:50, Reply)

oh please
feed them the helicopter first. rotor going, of course.

I just love the idea of studying a theory and instead of THINKING about it, about what it means, what all the implications are, what evidence there is for it etc etc, you sit back, and belch, and say 'ta for the theory our mother, that's left me right satisfied, that has'.
( ascorbate, Mon 15 Sep 2008, 21:57, Reply)

nope
I used to get sent out of religious education classes for asking the teacher how he would explain evolution (when he was wiffling on about god creating us).

OK, so i was being a precocious little bint, but still. Our biology teacher took the opposite approach, and EXPLAINED to us why evolution was such a good theory. Which is why I'm a biologist* now, and not a bigoted retard religious twat.



*we're a different kind of twat altogether.
( ascorbate, Mon 15 Sep 2008, 22:01, Reply)

but of course!
so, what kind of classes should be in a yorkshire accent, and which in a brummy accent? I think physics should always be delivered in a stephen hawking voice, and geography in a slightly sinister transylvanian accent.
( ascorbate, Mon 15 Sep 2008, 22:19, Reply)

hmm
actually, we used to have glaswegian french.
from an alcoholic teacher.
I think Modern Studies (not sure what it's called in countries other than scotland) would be improved with a somerset accent.
( ascorbate, Mon 15 Sep 2008, 22:30, Reply)

Some of the replies
make me laugh out loud. If I ever had the unfortunate luck to have to debate with one of these people in real life I would just have to shake my head and walk away. This is my favourite reply

"To anyone that has any doubts about the creationist/evolutionist argument, please consider: You have a bone in your buttock-area called your coccyx, which you can feel. It is the remains of a tail. Now do you still believe in creationism?"
(Panda_Pop, Tue 16 Sep 2008, 11:48, Reply)

im not entirely sure
that pointing to your arse would get many people to instantly denounce lifelong held religious beliefs.

I cant understand why your all getting in such a tizzy about this anyway, people are gullible and need to have something to believe in, I mean we have Scientology, and thats infinitely more bollocks than creationism
(Halfy By light alone, Tue 16 Sep 2008, 17:06, Reply)