God
I'm munted.

Problem is, I've already realised that this is also the first time I've been truly happy...since the last time I was cunted in the fuck thanks to drink and drugs. Well, not drugs, spliff. But anyway.

This is a bad discovery. So the question is:

"is all knowledge good knowledge ?"
( I_Was_Mordred, Sat 6 Jun 2009, 0:26, 22 replies, latest was 16 years ago)

Yes, all knowledge is good knowledge
But I admit that sometimes it is hard to deal with the extra knowledge you sometimes get.

So, all knowledge is good knowledge, but it is also true that "there is nothing either good or bad but thinking makes it so".
( GarbageFan didn't know what to have as a board sig on, Sat 6 Jun 2009, 0:31, Reply)

Definately not.
Somethings are better not said.

Like about how me + ym = mint.

EDIT: Also, what are you talking about?
(TheColonel, Sat 6 Jun 2009, 0:32, Reply)

Well
I'm saying that sometimes...we make discoveries, about ourselves and about others and about life in general...and sometimes those discoveries are good. They save us from another beating...they help. But sometimes those discoveries are bad. We realise something about ourselves / life that makes us sad. Shows our limitations.

So knowledge / self-awareness isn't always good. Or is it ?

So "is ignorance better than reality" is the simplified version.

But I did tell you I was munted...
( I_Was_Mordred, Sat 6 Jun 2009, 0:47, Reply)

Ahh, I see
A few months ago, I thought back to when I was about 12/13 and starting to develop a personality, and I really liked my older sisters boyfriend. Thinking back, would the 12 year old me like me now?

I'm not sure he would, after a few decisions I've made.

So to answer your questions in a roundabout way, discovering personal flaws is a great thing, as you can (hopefully) correct them before you suffer from them.

Also, lay off the weed :)
(TheColonel, Sat 6 Jun 2009, 0:52, Reply)

I'm 42.
I've done weed for 24 years.

I haven't done badly.

Better than those I've seen with alcohol tendencies.

Remember, right now, as I type, I'm completely fucked. But still able to type.

Don't knock da weed. It's more natural than anything else that one ingests (alcohol, tobacco, caffeine et al).
( I_Was_Mordred, Sat 6 Jun 2009, 1:01, Reply)

I'm 22
I smoked weed from 16-21, 3 of the those 4 years I smoked very heavily, as in at least once or twice a day (not one or two joints, i mean one or two sesh's per day) and it really fucked with my head. Spent a couple of years waking up, having a few bongs before college, going to college, getting stoned at college, going home, going round a mates and getting stoned again, going home and having a few bongs before bed.

At least a year of that was spent depressed. Not wah wah wah I'm sad depressed, as in days spent in bed smoking myself stupid not wanting to do anything even things I usually enjoy (wanking, playing guitar, wanking and wanking) and I think that was maybe what did it.

I don't mean to teach grandma to suck eggs, and I'm glad you still enjoy smoking, but even a few off a J gets me really paranoid, and I think I make up for that by drinking too much.
(TheColonel, Sat 6 Jun 2009, 1:15, Reply)

One man's meat
is another man's poison. It doesn't work for everyone. Of course I get the paranoias, just like everyone. But I fight it, mostly with logic. "I have smoked x hundred times, and out of those times, how many times has it been trouble ?". As a percentage, it's very very small. So I let myself enjoy it. Sorry you're not able to - and that's not patronising.

I love staying in control. I love it. That's why cannabis is the drug of my choice.
( I_Was_Mordred, Sat 6 Jun 2009, 1:20, Reply)

Good on you mate,
I used to think I'll always smoke weed, but I started having really strange, bad thoughts.

You're right, probably just not for me.
I got really bad at one point and thought I was crazy. Sounds stupid looking back on it, and I have no idea why I thought I was crazy but a good friend put it into perspective. "If you're mental, you won't know that you're mental."

Works for me.
(TheColonel, Sat 6 Jun 2009, 1:29, Reply)

Weed doesn't really effect me well.
I get all the minus points with non of the plus ones. I try it every couple of years just to reconfirm that I don't like it.

I love most opiets though.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Sat 6 Jun 2009, 1:37, Reply)

Never tried opiates
I think it was 'shrooms that did it for me in the end.

Had one really bad trip that ended with me and my best mate lying the a room, after turning off the tv, music and light, and I'd convinced myself that I knew they were poisonous and I'd killed myself. Not sure how that came to be, but it seems with 'shrooms that you have one bad thought and it spirals.

Had 5 or 6 absolutely mint trips before that thought.
(TheColonel, Sat 6 Jun 2009, 1:40, Reply)

I'm in the same boat
works a treat for me, so I'll keep doing it
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Sat 6 Jun 2009, 11:27, Reply)

They dont call it dope because it makes you smart.
( enoughblueskyforsailorstrousers, Sat 6 Jun 2009, 1:34, Reply)

Yeah, like
being drunk makes you clever...

I'll take the Pepsi Challenge any day.
( I_Was_Mordred, Sat 6 Jun 2009, 1:48, Reply)

No, it doesnt make you clever either.

Not having a go at you - I smoked weed from my late teens until my late 30s.
( enoughblueskyforsailorstrousers, Sat 6 Jun 2009, 2:15, Reply)

All knowledge is good knowledge
and if learning it makes you lose your sanity,m let that feeling wash over you and embrace the insanity! For that's how you not only survive but thrive.
( mistaspakkaman and the inedible shifting caterpillars, Sat 6 Jun 2009, 1:10, Reply)

"embrace the insanity"
yes - it's the only way. Listening to "Science of Silence" by Richard Ashcroft. Google the lyrics - they rock.
( I_Was_Mordred, Sat 6 Jun 2009, 1:21, Reply)

Ooh
my head. Still, no pain, no gain.
( I_Was_Mordred, Sat 6 Jun 2009, 9:18, Reply)

The knowledge that I know nothing
According to Socrates, that is what all his beliefs hinged on - he was viewed to be so clever as he knew that he knew nothing.
However, the knowledge that I know nothing 47 hours before two very important exams is NOT good.
I wish the Theory of Prior Knowledge was correct- that we have complete and pure knowledge from birth, and all we need is the correct "midwife" to bring it into existence.
Then again, that would hinge upon the idea of the Immortal Soul, and if the soul is immortal, I'm a bit screwed.
Ah well. My own fault. But wouldn't you agree that there is a process of generation from one opposite to another? Like sleeping to waking, justice to injustice, life to death? In order to be asleep you must have once been awake, in order to be awake you must have been to sleep at SOME point.
Which leads into the whole issue of, to be dead you must once have been alive. So DOES THAT MEAN, that once you're alive, you must have once been dead?
Fuck Plato. Baldy cunt.
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Sat 6 Jun 2009, 9:58, Reply)

Christ
your post - although excellent - taxes the few working synapses I currently possess.

But to answer the question - yes, one was "dead" before being brought into existence via sperm / egg collision and fertilisation. Or if not dead, then in a state of potentiality; potentially there in the DNA of one's parents which fuses together in the act of creation.

However I advise you to work like stink for your exams and leave these issues until they are over. Good luck !
( I_Was_Mordred, Sat 6 Jun 2009, 10:25, Reply)

cheers
That argument is from the Phaedo, which is covered in my exam. Along with other such shit, like Pleasure and Pain being siamese twins - can't have one without the other etc etc etc.

Aside from the Meaning of Life®, I have to know:
-half a book of the Iliad in Greek, plus the otehr half in English
-what hte fuck happened to the French Monarchy
-what the fuck happened to the British Monarchy, the Commonwealth, and the Monarchy again
-why Catherine the Great liked to masturbate on horses.

So posting on here IS revision.
I guess.
Not.
Fuck.
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Sat 6 Jun 2009, 10:34, Reply)

Listen
I once walked into a final exam - my Finals for the end of a 3 year degree course in History - not knowing the dates of the English Civil War. For a paper on the English Civil War. And I still got a second.

You seem capable of creating rational comments and arguments. That's half the battle. Just write lots.

Excreta tauream cerebrum vincit. Or something like that.
( I_Was_Mordred, Sat 6 Jun 2009, 10:36, Reply)

Ha, that's impressive
And yes. I'll bear that in mind. Got my Latin translation on Tuesday, doesn't look like I'll ahve time to revise. Ah well.

ero laetissima cum negoitum finis haeret.
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Sat 6 Jun 2009, 10:40, Reply)