Tragedy?
Just reading there about a 4 year old boy who died in a Somerfield in Liverpool

"Harry Blackmore, was swinging on a small steel rail when he fell in the store in Liverpool."

So, like any 4 year old, unsupervised in a supermarket, he was dicking about, doing stuff he probably shouldn't have been doing.

"This is a working class neighbourhood with lots of children. We say that parents should be able to go shopping with their children in a safe environment."

What the fuck has 'working class' got to do with it?

So the parents are suing the supermarket, for what exactly....you could walk into ANY supermarket, even in upper class neighbourhoods, and count a 100 ways a 4 year old could seriously injure or kill themselves.

Maybe she should have had the kid under control, maybe a bit of introspection wouldn't go amiss, maybe she should sue herself....Yes it is a tragedy, yes it is devastating for the family involved and they have my sympathy, but all this aggressive kneejerk stuff can be a bit much.

Alternatively they should watch the brilliant 'The Sweet Hereafter', brilliant film that explores, blame, guilt, shame, responsibility.

But, you know what, sometimes accidents DO happen.
(Cancer Joy was short lived, Wed 23 Sep 2009, 11:29, 19 replies, latest was 16 years ago)

This is because
nowadays it seems that everything that happens is nobodys responsibility, but everybody elses fault.

Its all that fucking Brown I tell you, wouldn't have happened under a Tory leadership blah blah blah.
(Halfy By light alone, Wed 23 Sep 2009, 11:52, Reply)

people are too stupid to take responsibility for their own actions, or lack of them
there's been a recent thing in the engineering world where a guy went into an excavation that wasn't properly shored up and it collapsed and he died. You probably heard about it in the news a while ago. The director of the company is being charged personally with various things including gross negligence leading to manslaughter.

This seems entirely wrong to me.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 23 Sep 2009, 11:59, Reply)

This one I'm not sure about,
because it sounds like it's tied up in the whole corporate manslaughter issue. If the excavation wasn't shored up because it wasn't finished and there were warning signs etc then that's one thing, but if, say, there was a company policy that excavations didn't need comprehensive shoring up, or if "cost-cutting" led to substandard materials being used, then the director absolutely needs to be charged.
(wellgroomedwookiee is a filthy-minded hobgoblin, Wed 23 Sep 2009, 12:45, Reply)

I'm almost certain that they would have had those policies in place
I agree with you though, if they weren't then the blame can be levelled to the top, but if they are then it shouldn't
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 23 Sep 2009, 13:22, Reply)

I gather there was something particularly dodgy about the excavation case
I know a few people who were at uni / friends with the lad who died.

I don't know all the details (and presumably it wouldn't be a great idea to mention them online before the court case anyway) but I understand that it's a bit more than an unlucky accident / lack of common sense and a member of senior management does appear to be directly at fault.

I believe the reason they've chosen to prosecute this one as the corporate manslaughter case is that the facts are pretty clear so it makes a good test case.

I don't have any sympathy for the compensation culture in general but this case is about criminal law rather than pay outs.
( ElParrot, Wed 23 Sep 2009, 23:52, Reply)

I was out in Australia a couple of years back
and we went to see a viewpoint which was on a rocky outcrop (a sheer cliff which scared the hell out of me!) overlooking the sea. There were no barriers, only signs which said something like 'Please be careful. Your safety is our concern, but your responsibility'.

And that, to me, is as it should be.
( K2k6 has a proper job these days, Wed 23 Sep 2009, 12:01, Reply)

absolutely
I remember a story some years back about a woman who was trying to sue Nike for something like $7 million because she tripped over her shoelaces. She lost fortunately, but I thought she'd be better off trying to sue her parents for not teaching her to tie her fucking laces properly
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 23 Sep 2009, 12:03, Reply)

^^
who needs fiction when reality boggles the mind just as effectively
(Cancer Joy was short lived, Wed 23 Sep 2009, 12:05, Reply)

The Cliffs Of Moher
in the west of Ireland used to be like that but now they have a wall up and a man in a hig-vis hacket with a torch preventing morons from getting dead.

The view is still exceptional but nowhere near as exciting.

rafter
baz
(bazmorningstar efil4nat3b, Wed 23 Sep 2009, 14:49, Reply)

Got to be careful when judging these things as frivolous though
As you don't necessarily have all the facts. Like that McDonalds Coffee lawsuit.
( The Light in Chains don't touch the Pope's boner, Wed 23 Sep 2009, 12:26, Reply)

I took this pic at Buttertubs Pass.
Buttertubs


( sandettie light vessel automatic New Twitter - @bollocksreally, Wed 23 Sep 2009, 12:37, Reply)

When my dad killed himself
his parents blamed everyone they could for some of the most ridiculous reasons, for example they told my 12 year old brother that it was another guy in the navy's fault because they were promotion rivals and how my brother should get revenge when he was older. Then they blamed his next door neighbours because they were next door when it happened. I blame them for being fucktard parents his whole life. I also blame him for being a fucktard and killing himself.
( Peej, Wed 23 Sep 2009, 12:53, Reply)

They were all wrong
really it was your fault
( Bert Monkeysex is waiting for the mods to delete him, Wed 23 Sep 2009, 13:06, Reply)

May well have been

( Peej, Wed 23 Sep 2009, 13:07, Reply)

Don't be silly, of course it wasn't
it was most likely due to some inherent mental illness. My uncle killed himself aged 18, apparently this means that mental illness runs in the family.
( Bert Monkeysex is waiting for the mods to delete him, Wed 23 Sep 2009, 13:13, Reply)

Nope
it was cos he was a twat got caught and was scared of prison (showers)
( Peej, Wed 23 Sep 2009, 13:31, Reply)

I say let the supermarket sue the parents
for letting the kid die on their premisis.
( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Wed 23 Sep 2009, 13:29, Reply)

The metal pole
should sue the corpse for harassment
(Halfy By light alone, Wed 23 Sep 2009, 13:38, Reply)

Two fantastic suggestions
if I do say so myself.
( flirting with badgers What? It sounded good at the time., Wed 23 Sep 2009, 21:14, Reply)