/links had another Dawkins documentary this week
This one: b3ta.com/links/Dawkins_interviews_creationist

In the thread that ensued, many anti-Dawkins comments were posted. They seem based around the fact that he asserts himself with a zeal that really grinds those gears. I found myself so riled by these attacks I ended up defending dear old Dawkers at one point.

In my opinion, he's earned the right to be confident about his work. I think he's doing us all a favour. Tough love from a scientific father with a great big atheist slipper, if you will. Nobody likes being told they're wrong, but that's a side-effect of the far more important benefits of knowledge transfer.

What do you lot reckon? Is Dawkins a cunt, or is he the saviour of mankind?
( chart cat has an itch, Thu 1 Oct 2009, 15:14, 49 replies, latest was 16 years ago)

he's a bit smug about it though.

(PsychoChomp, Thu 1 Oct 2009, 15:15, Reply)

So he should be
Croissant in one hand, orange juice in the other.
( chart cat has an itch, Thu 1 Oct 2009, 15:58, Reply)

I have one simple problem with Dawkins.
He seems to think proving Christians wrong makes him right, and is therefore pretty bastard smug about it in my eyes.

Also, he annoyed me in a good episode of Dr Who!

EDIT: FUCK!
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Thu 1 Oct 2009, 15:15, Reply)

and he was rubbish in The Darkness
Not bad in Treasure Island though.

It's Dawkins I have the problem with.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 1 Oct 2009, 15:20, Reply)

haha!

( Bert Monkeysex is waiting for the mods to delete him, Thu 1 Oct 2009, 15:22, Reply)

Dawkins is alright
but you're an absolutely massive bastard for posting straight after me, you've ruined EVERYTHING

*runs away sobbing, pig tails waving in the air*
( Bert Monkeysex is waiting for the mods to delete him, Thu 1 Oct 2009, 15:19, Reply)

yeah I was hoping our subthread would end up with loads of people posting picture of hot girls from their school days.

(PsychoChomp, Thu 1 Oct 2009, 15:21, Reply)

Me too
That bikini babe would have got it right up 'er
( Bert Monkeysex is waiting for the mods to delete him, Thu 1 Oct 2009, 15:22, Reply)

I don't think there would be much to top that,

(PsychoChomp, Thu 1 Oct 2009, 15:24, Reply)

Chickenlady in a basque
would be my ideal

EDIT Basque meaning northern spanish/southern frenchman by the way, not one of those corset things
( Bert Monkeysex is waiting for the mods to delete him, Thu 1 Oct 2009, 15:26, Reply)

I've met her, she licked my face.

(PsychoChomp, Thu 1 Oct 2009, 15:27, Reply)

You lucky bitch

( Bert Monkeysex is waiting for the mods to delete him, Thu 1 Oct 2009, 15:29, Reply)

She's the one who was lucky.

(PsychoChomp, Thu 1 Oct 2009, 15:38, Reply)

Lucky she didn't catch anything

( Bert Monkeysex is waiting for the mods to delete him, Thu 1 Oct 2009, 15:38, Reply)

haha

(PsychoChomp, Thu 1 Oct 2009, 15:40, Reply)

Means well but...
...he's so evangelical about his message that he's in danger of becoming as annoying as the people he's trying to mock/disprove/troll. That said, it's nice to have an enthusiastically vocal opposer to all that Jeebus business.


funzro.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/dr-richard-dawkins-vs-emma-watson.jpg
(MyFakeName, Thu 1 Oct 2009, 15:24, Reply)

Hmmm...
this is a Wickerman moment, in that I absolutely Edward Would-would
( Bert Monkeysex is waiting for the mods to delete him, Thu 1 Oct 2009, 15:26, Reply)

it's shopped.

(PsychoChomp, Thu 1 Oct 2009, 15:26, Reply)

if not
then it's pretty uncanny
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 1 Oct 2009, 15:28, Reply)

Doesn't matter
The damage is done, I can't fap over dawkins without thinking of her from Harry Potter now.
(MyFakeName, Thu 1 Oct 2009, 15:28, Reply)

Like I care

( Bert Monkeysex is waiting for the mods to delete him, Thu 1 Oct 2009, 15:29, Reply)

Shit.
When did she become Robbie Williams?
(wellgroomedwookiee is a filthy-minded hobgoblin, Thu 1 Oct 2009, 15:38, Reply)

When she felt out with Rupert
and started loving angels instead
( Bert Monkeysex is waiting for the mods to delete him, Thu 1 Oct 2009, 15:40, Reply)

You know what
I hadn't even considered that there was an etiquette to it. What's the lifespan for a post before it is no longer considered rude to go-a-trampling all over it on the top of the board?
( chart cat has an itch, Thu 1 Oct 2009, 15:57, Reply)

Dunno
But he's married to Lalla Ward, who was the second Romana in Doctor Who and therefore is a very lucky bastard in my view.
( Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Thu 1 Oct 2009, 15:23, Reply)

*googles*
Ew, she's a bit skeletal, isn't she?
( Bert Monkeysex is waiting for the mods to delete him, Thu 1 Oct 2009, 15:33, Reply)

She was quite lovely in her day
And also married to Tom Baker for a brief period, which basically means old Dawkins has has Tom's sloppy seconds.
( Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Thu 1 Oct 2009, 15:46, Reply)

Phwoar
NOW she's sexy
( Bert Monkeysex is waiting for the mods to delete him, Thu 1 Oct 2009, 15:47, Reply)

He comes across really well in this clip
I think he'd do better to get off his soapbox - where I can understand why he gets peoples' backs up - and just let the creationists talk. It's a bit like the BNP - if you actually let them put their cases forward and talk freely, it soon becomes apparent how much horse-shit they're talking.

So I'll vote for saviour-of-mankind

Edit: Have just started watching part 2. How has he managed not to twat this woman across the face with the bloody stump of her own dismembered arm?
Edit Edit: AAAARGH! How can she come out with such ridiculous horse-shit without the slightest hint of irony? Fuck me, how can someone make it this far through life being so fucking dense?
(LongJohnBaldry, Thu 1 Oct 2009, 15:30, Reply)

It's the relentless smiling
and soothing-yet-patronising, unwavering certainty in the tone of her voice that really sent me into a rage.

EDIT: she's fucking smug. That's it, she's smug. It isn't Dawkins who's smug, it's her. The SMUG CUNT.
( chart cat has an itch, Thu 1 Oct 2009, 16:04, Reply)

I had to give up after part 2
My blood pressure was about to go through the roof. Fortunately someone in my office suggested a tea break so I've had a chance to calm down and forget about that blinkered, pig-ignorant, fuckwitted, patronising, god-bless-America-bible-thumping mentalist.
(LongJohnBaldry, Thu 1 Oct 2009, 16:27, Reply)

He is smug but,
The thing to remember is, not all points of view have the same validitity.
When Dawkins is head to head with the bishop of fundements, he has the experience of years of research and study behind him. The bishop just believes. It is quite wrong for the other party to think his own point of view has the same weight as the Dawkins.

Its the Astronomers against the Astrologers (who really are cunts) or the Eco-warriors against the pro-nuclears. Me against everybody else. No amount of education, no matter how gentle or demonstative, can shake a person's belief, no matter how irrational it seems to others.

So why does Dawkins bother? He likes winding them up, must be the answer. So long as he knows he is doing this he will not explode in an all engulfing splatter of frustration.
( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Thu 1 Oct 2009, 15:37, Reply)

This is my favourite answer so far
Have this biscuit. It's a bit soggy, sorry.
( chart cat has an itch, Thu 1 Oct 2009, 15:54, Reply)

Thanks
That's the nicest thing anyone has ever said to me.

Up yours Roosta
( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Thu 1 Oct 2009, 15:59, Reply)

He's neither.
He's just another human who believes what he wants to believe. Can we just leave it at that?
( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Thu 1 Oct 2009, 15:41, Reply)

NO
We must fight him on the beaches, fight him on the land and in the sea, we will fight bravely for as long as it takes, and never will so many have given so much, for so few.

Or something.
( Bert Monkeysex is waiting for the mods to delete him, Thu 1 Oct 2009, 15:43, Reply)

Not quite
Because he has a rational explanation for what he believes.

But as was pointed out above, he's not going to change anyone who has blind faith.
( K2k6 has a proper job these days, Thu 1 Oct 2009, 15:44, Reply)

Blind Faith
could be a sequel to blind fury, it could be about a kick-arse blind Priest who dishes out a beating to the Dawkinsamatron
( Bert Monkeysex is waiting for the mods to delete him, Thu 1 Oct 2009, 15:47, Reply)

there could be a sequel to that called Blind Faith II: Force of Habit
which has a bunch of kung fu nuns
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 1 Oct 2009, 15:51, Reply)

Wasn't Blind Faith
the name of a group in the '70s or '80s who got into trouble for having a young naked girl on their album cover?

I'd google it to check, but...
( K2k6 has a proper job these days, Thu 1 Oct 2009, 15:58, Reply)

It was
Clapton, Winwood & Ginger Baker - should've been ace. Wasn't.

They did the first Hyde Park open air gig - a few weeks before the famous Stones gig.

Christ, I'm fascinating aren't I?
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 1 Oct 2009, 16:06, Reply)

It was also a song the by The Levellers
but I think I'm the only person here who likes them
( SpikeyPickle wishes he was mabazaritchie, Thu 1 Oct 2009, 16:17, Reply)

related repost from me:
www.b3ta.com/questions/fans/post405107#post405115

EDIT ha - replying to you!
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 1 Oct 2009, 16:19, Reply)

Whoo hooo!
I'm not alone :0)

Off topic, their last album was bloody brilliant!

Edit: Ooooohhhh, so you were
( SpikeyPickle wishes he was mabazaritchie, Thu 1 Oct 2009, 16:24, Reply)

I must confess
I've not heard anything of theirs since they first got a record deal. They used to play at free festivals where I saw them a few times. Good musicians.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 1 Oct 2009, 16:33, Reply)

I like the Levs too
Far better live than recorded, too.
( Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Thu 1 Oct 2009, 16:44, Reply)

I think he's had some successes with his God Delusion book
with some bookish god-botherers starting to question things a bit. I'm looking forward to reading the new one about evolution.
( chart cat has an itch, Thu 1 Oct 2009, 16:07, Reply)

No No No
He believes nothing, He sees things and describes them.
( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Thu 1 Oct 2009, 15:55, Reply)

We believe in nothing Lebowski
Absolutely nothing. What do you think about that?
( djtrialprice, Thu 1 Oct 2009, 16:06, Reply)