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(, Sun 1 Apr 2001, 1:00)
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No.
The deniers are not sceptics, since scepticism in its true sense implies systematic doubt in a search for evidence, combined with an openness to evidence.

The denialist movement is no sceptical, because it will not accept the evidence. To this extent, it does have a common trait with holocaust deniers, "birthers", and any number of other fringe movements.

The belief among the scientific community - and even the American petrochemical science association accepts it - in AGW is not doctrinaire; its simply the case that, given what we understand of physics, chemisty, and so on, the reality AGW is about as close to proven as you can get. There is no debate to be had on its reality at the moment, any more than there's a debate to be had concerning the number of legs that the average dog has.
(, Wed 2 Dec 2009, 11:16, 3 replies, latest was 16 years ago)
the fundamental bit comes in with ordinary people though
regardless of the science and the scientists, it's the common people that are the ones with the unshakeable faith either way.
(, Wed 2 Dec 2009, 11:19, Reply)
I've just worked out the number of legs an average dog has
1 legged dog has 16600000 google results
2 legged dog has 3030000 google results
3 legged dog has 14500000 google results
4 legged dog has 15000000 google results
5 legged dog has 11000000 google results
6 legged dog has 12100000 google results
7 legged dog has 9910000 google results
8 legged dog has 10600000 google results
9 legged dog has 6460000 google results
10 legged dog has 13900000 google results

So dogs on average have 5.349 legs.
FACT
(, Wed 2 Dec 2009, 11:24, Reply)
I am going to use this methodolgy
for everything in my life from now on.
(, Wed 2 Dec 2009, 11:25, Reply)
So
David Bowie is Shit - 15,700,000
David Bowie is Awesome - 15,100,000
David Bowie is alright - 835,000
David Bowie is good - 15,400,000

Fuck me, it seems I've been wrong all this time. I humbly apologise to Monty Boyce. I'm off to burn Scary Monsters now.
(, Wed 2 Dec 2009, 11:27, Reply)
hahahaha
this is awesome

and newsletter worthy I'd say

edit:
althegeordie is gay - 1,150 results
althegeordie is straight - 105 results

better break the news to your fiancée
(, Wed 2 Dec 2009, 11:28, Reply)
Awwww that sucks
I was really looking forward to getting married.
(, Wed 2 Dec 2009, 11:31, Reply)
And look at this
Vipros is a cunt - 451
Vipros is a god - 1,450
(, Wed 2 Dec 2009, 11:32, Reply)
the internet never lies

(, Wed 2 Dec 2009, 11:35, Reply)
Civil ceremonies are nearly the same.

(, Wed 2 Dec 2009, 11:33, Reply)
I'm not from Islington
they won't let me have a civil ceremony with a woman.
(, Wed 2 Dec 2009, 11:34, Reply)
Hahaha

(, Wed 2 Dec 2009, 11:58, Reply)
it's not science if you don't put FACT at the end.

(, Wed 2 Dec 2009, 11:28, Reply)
*clicks*

(, Wed 2 Dec 2009, 11:36, Reply)
When excited my dog has 4 1/2 legs...

To me there seem to be unsatisfactorily answered questions, and since it's politicisation AGW feels less like a scientific theory and more a govermental crowbar.

The use of renewable energy, less polluting cars, the clean up of industry can only be a good thing whether AGW is true or not, however the paradigm shift in our style of living neeeded to meet government set targets feels wrong and unecessarily economically damaging.
(, Wed 2 Dec 2009, 11:25, Reply)
I don't see why it's damaging at all.
The Stern Report was clear that moving to renewables would be expensive, but expensive doesn't mean harmful: the money spent would provide jobs, technology, innovation; and it would, of course, save us from the oil shocks headed our way.

It would also be cheaper than the predicted cost of climate change - a cost which, since the Report, has been revised upwards.
(, Wed 2 Dec 2009, 11:34, Reply)

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