Well they
shouldn't have such shonky roads in the first place. Sweeden and Canada are cold all the time and their roads are excellent*

*made up fact I hope is true
( TGB checking Off Topic is still shit at, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 11:09, 2 replies, latest was 16 years ago)

But that's because they're cold all the time.
So it's worth spending the extra on the resistant road surfaces. It possibly wouldn't be cost-effective here; and councils don't have the cash (or the political incentive) to plan for the long term, when funding is worked out annually and all council seats are up for election every three years. Why would any council put up taxes for a year to pay for a more lasting road surface, when voters would immediately chuck 'em out for being (allegedly) spendthrift?
( Enzyme is powered by sunlight, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 11:12, Reply)

I don't like your logic
Get out of my thread
( TGB checking Off Topic is still shit at, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 11:23, Reply)

The roads in Sweden are tarmac too.
Perhaps they're constructed differently since the materials appear to be the same?
The roads in Ukraine and Russia are also tarmac and have potholes the size of cars. In fact, they are essentially potholes laced together by tiny bits of tarmac.
( crackhouseceilidhband Fuck off back to Mumsnet, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 11:30, Reply)

Rural Romania
has some of the most decrepit roads I have ever seen - truly epic.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 11:39, Reply)

Different construction, different mixture &c
And probably better - and more expensively - built to begin with, since they have a sensible approach to public spending over there.
( Enzyme is powered by sunlight, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 11:58, Reply)

Can you not write "etc." like a normal person
instead of being a pretentious twat?
( crackhouseceilidhband Fuck off back to Mumsnet, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 12:04, Reply)

I like "&c".
So get to fuck.
( Enzyme is powered by sunlight, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 12:34, Reply)

Cool, fucking is not a problem for me.

( crackhouseceilidhband Fuck off back to Mumsnet, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 12:40, Reply)

To make roads more frost resistant
requires approximately 50% deeper foundation concrete and a thicker layer of asphalt that requires more frequent replacement which togther increase the cost of a road by about 20% per year to keep it within regulations. These factors combined make it uneconomical to keep any but the busiest and most inportant motorways "Cold Treated" in a country like this where snow and serious frost are a relatively uncommon phonenomena.

It's amazing the random stuff you learn when you're friends with a civil engineer. ;-)
(bill, Mon 25 Jan 2010, 17:06, Reply)