piston's post is more stupid

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 6 Apr 2010, 11:16, 2 replies, latest was 16 years ago)

this is always the case

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 6 Apr 2010, 11:19, Reply)

I might write an angry gaz to rachelswipe telling her that she's WRONG ONLINE

(PsychoChomp, Tue 6 Apr 2010, 11:25, Reply)

why's that?

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 6 Apr 2010, 11:27, Reply)

www.b3ta.com/questions/prejudice/post682760
It's the bit where she wonders she should work so hard when people get free money. I don't know how much she earns but I am certain it is in a different league to the £60ish a week basic Job seekers.
(PsychoChomp, Tue 6 Apr 2010, 11:29, Reply)

I think you are probably right
her Mercedes agrees ;-)
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 6 Apr 2010, 11:33, Reply)

The problem is it's £60 x X

£60 may be a pitiful amount to live on, but if a person refuses work that they are physically capable of doing I don't see why they should reatin the rightvb to claim it. The Governments responsibilty is surely to help provide a basic quality of living, not support poeple until they find a job that they like?
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 6 Apr 2010, 11:34, Reply)

*gets on soapbox*
the problem as I see it is that most people are stupid, small-minded cunts. This is never going to go away. The system we have isn't great, but due to the nature of people no system is ever going to work well.

Because of this, I almost completely ignore it. Yes some of my taxes go towards paying for benefit cheats and lazy bastards, but if they didn't they'd only go to something else that probably wouldn't impact on my life.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 6 Apr 2010, 11:38, Reply)

They don't retain the right to claim it,
you have to apply for jobs to claim jobseekers. If you don't they stop your payments.
I'm sure there are people who get round it but that's a problem with the checks not the actual way it works.
(PsychoChomp, Tue 6 Apr 2010, 11:38, Reply)

hey, no flirting with me behind my back
i am just opposed to the principle of anyone getting anything for nothing, is all. my friend has 6 nieces and nephews, all of them are aged between 19 and 26, all of them are bright enough and in great health, and all of them have been on the dole since leaving school. none of them has any intention of getting a job. why? why?? why do they think anyone wants to go to work just to give them cash for nothing? several of them also have children and council houses. if people like the rest of us didn't go to work, where do they think their £60 a week and flat would come from, heaven?! i'd have absolutely no problem whatsoever with topping up their salaries if they did something at a low wage, but i really resent them having free accommodation and cash for giving NOTHING back!
( rachelswipe with a fork, Tue 6 Apr 2010, 11:40, Reply)

you and I
and most people on here just can't get their head round that sort of thing. There's got to be a different mindset, and it's alien to us.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 6 Apr 2010, 11:42, Reply)

I see and look at that in a totally different way.
How has society/education failed to give them a desire, opportunity and motivation to find work?
(PsychoChomp, Tue 6 Apr 2010, 11:44, Reply)

because it makes it too easy for them not to
all 4 of their parents work hard and they went to decent enough schools, they just don't see why they should get off their arses to earn cash when they can get it for nothing. so they swop tips on how to fail interviews etc. it drives my friend insane (and their parents, ie her brother/sister for that matter). one of them was even told by the dole office that she would make more money not having a job now that she had a sprog...
( rachelswipe with a fork, Tue 6 Apr 2010, 11:47, Reply)

It's pretty hard to argue against annecdotal evidence that I have no knowledge of.

(PsychoChomp, Tue 6 Apr 2010, 11:55, Reply)

true
but the daily mail contains many many such genuine stories!
( rachelswipe with a fork, Tue 6 Apr 2010, 11:56, Reply)

I just read it every day to tell me what will and wont give me cancer.

(PsychoChomp, Tue 6 Apr 2010, 11:57, Reply)

and won't THERE IS NOTHING THAT WILL NOT GIVE YOU CANCER!!!
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 6 Apr 2010, 12:01, Reply)

it is with that attitude

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 6 Apr 2010, 11:56, Reply)

Why does it have to be society and education taht has failed them?

Maybe the failed themselves by not taking advantage of one of the best education systems in the world
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 6 Apr 2010, 11:47, Reply)

If it's such a massive problem in this country
Then it can't just be problem with individuals.
(PsychoChomp, Tue 6 Apr 2010, 11:50, Reply)

the problem is
that the welfare state assumes that people want to work. when in fact, there are too many people who are inherently lazy c*nts who will happily take a soft option. not that i am saying i am perfect, i am desperately lazy about many many things, it's just that work isn't one of them (in fact, work is probably the only one!).
( rachelswipe with a fork, Tue 6 Apr 2010, 11:58, Reply)

Laziness is not genetic.

(PsychoChomp, Tue 6 Apr 2010, 12:02, Reply)

To be paying £3k a month in tax
you'd need to be earning over £100k or so per annum.

Good luck to rswipe. I'd need that sort of salary to consider working in London.
( K2k6 has a proper job these days, Tue 6 Apr 2010, 11:46, Reply)

Seems ok, bar the last paragraph

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 6 Apr 2010, 11:27, Reply)

Well yeah, you can say that the country is overcrowded when you live and work in london.
It doesn't seem so crowded anywhere outside the south east.
(PsychoChomp, Tue 6 Apr 2010, 11:31, Reply)

Have you seen MK is pitching to become a city?

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 6 Apr 2010, 11:29, Reply)

I have, it does pretty much every year.
We're up against Reading this year, if they beat us MK should become an independant state.
(PsychoChomp, Tue 6 Apr 2010, 11:30, Reply)

I thought this was a special one for the Queens diamond jubilee?

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 6 Apr 2010, 11:31, Reply)

Then the rest of us could build a big fence all the way round
to keep you monkeys inside.
( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Tue 6 Apr 2010, 11:33, Reply)

the only thing Reading should become
is a hole in the ground
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 6 Apr 2010, 11:33, Reply)

We shud put all da imigants in der

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 6 Apr 2010, 11:35, Reply)

HEY! I went to Reading Uni and...err...
..Good point, well made.
( Colonel Dracula Two manky hookers and a racist dwarf, Tue 6 Apr 2010, 11:44, Reply)

So did I...
What year did you graduate?
(PsychoChomp, Tue 6 Apr 2010, 11:44, Reply)

1998
I was in Wells Hall in my first year
( Colonel Dracula Two manky hookers and a racist dwarf, Tue 6 Apr 2010, 11:48, Reply)

you old bastard

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 6 Apr 2010, 11:49, Reply)

Yup

( Colonel Dracula Two manky hookers and a racist dwarf, Tue 6 Apr 2010, 11:51, Reply)

Well before my time.

(PsychoChomp, Tue 6 Apr 2010, 11:53, Reply)

you young bastard

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 6 Apr 2010, 11:54, Reply)

I'm glad I went to uni before digital cameras and facebook existed
I have had a weekend of heavy drinking and cunts (some of them close friends, but still cunts) pointing cameras/iPhones in my face. Back to work this morning and my inbox is full of "You have been tagged" messages.
( Colonel Dracula Two manky hookers and a racist dwarf, Tue 6 Apr 2010, 12:00, Reply)

let's hope 'being able to spell 'independent' isn't the clincher, eh?

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 6 Apr 2010, 11:51, Reply)

I'm not actually the official spokesman for Milton Keynes.

(PsychoChomp, Tue 6 Apr 2010, 11:56, Reply)

I bet you wish you were though?

( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Tue 6 Apr 2010, 11:59, Reply)

You should be,
the amount of unpaid work you'd done for the local tourist board.

What ungrateful cunts they are. You should move somewhere where you're more appreciated.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 6 Apr 2010, 13:44, Reply)

Like Dunstable

( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Tue 6 Apr 2010, 14:21, Reply)